U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rules that non-believers can be blocked from giving opening invocations at government meetings.

By |2019-08-28T07:54:52-08:00August 29th, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , , |8 Comments

How is that constitutional? 

Courtesy of HuffPo:

A federal appeals court ruling on legislative prayer has alarmed secular activists who say the decision privileges people who believe in God and treats nontheists like “second-class citizens.”

The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Friday that it’s constitutional for the Pennsylvania House of Representatives to ban guest chaplains who don’t believe in God or a higher power from delivering opening invocations at its meetings.

A group of atheists, agnostics, freethinkers and humanists sued members of the Pennsylvania House in 2016 over its theists-only policy for guest chaplains, arguing that it violates the Constitution’s establishment clause, which prohibits the government from promoting specific religious beliefs.

Judge Thomas L. Ambro, who wrote Friday’s 2-1 majority opinion, claimed that because prayer presupposes a higher power, “only theistic invocations can achieve all the purposes of legislative prayer.”

“As a matter of traditional practice, a petition to human wisdom and the power of science does not capture the full sense of ‘prayer,’ historically understood,” Ambro wrote. “Because [nontheists] do not proclaim the existence of a higher power, they cannot offer religious prayer in the historical sense.”

So now you get to test a person’s faith before allowing them to open a meeting in Pennsylvania? 

Talk about your slippery slopes. 

Do they get to throw them in the lake to see if they are witches as well?

I assume they realize that this will not block the folks from the Satanic Temple from offering the invocation. 

Remember that is what happened in Kenai, Alaska. (Link)

You know perhaps it would just be safer if these superstitious morons simply skipped the opening prayer and moved on to doing the people’s business. 

Just a thought. 

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  1. puck August 29, 2019 at 5:08 am

    separation of church and state? and why not Satanist or wiccaans? why not good morning, period?

  2. anon August 29, 2019 at 8:56 am

    “Legislative prayer”?

  3. OT-FYI August 29, 2019 at 9:33 am



    Hilcorp registered in Alaska in 2011, as HIlcorp Alaska, LLC, 100 percent owned by Hilcorp Energy I.L.P., based in Houston.

    As a limited liability company, Hilcorp does not have to pay the oil and gas corporate income tax that BP has long paid in Alaska, a tax under which BP may be paying $30 million a year or more.

    “Corporate income tax is levied on oil and gas C-corporations as a percentage of their worldwide net income apportioned to Alaska,” the state’s revenue sources book says.

    The petroleum corporate income tax is estimated to produce $210 million in this fiscal year, with most of that paid by ConocoPhillips, Exxon and BP.

    HIlcorp does not pay that tax since it is not a C-corporation.

  4. Alaska August 29, 2019 at 9:59 am

    ‘Betsy DeVos is on the 4th floor of ELIF at UAF for a private meeting right now. Just figured I’d help spread the word.’

  5. Anonymous August 29, 2019 at 10:57 am

    Uh huh. A theocracy was where we are headed all along. You know, i know that franklin graham and pat robertson didnt have their hands in that cookie jar for nothing. As much as they piously supported donald trump with thongue in cheek we knew they want to load the bases so they could start making these kinds of rules right? I mean people like that fled england to run their own religions and american soil was prime ground where they could do that. The constitutions protected americans for only so long. Now we gotta start fighting tooth and nail again cuz these arshholes have turned into the people their forefathers once fled from.

  6. Anonymous August 31, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Is the third circuit Trump appointees? Oh, yeah. This is going to the SCOTUS on so many levels.

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