We’re all going to die.
Courtesy of WaPo:
Maverick scientists who call for allowing the coronavirus to spread freely at “natural” rates among healthy young people while keeping most aspects of the economy up and running have found an audience inside the White House and at least one state capitol.
The scientists met last week with Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Scott Atlas, a neuroradiologist who has emerged as an influential adviser to President Trump on the pandemic.
When asked for comment, HHS referred a reporter to Azar’s subsequent Twitter statement about the meeting: “We heard strong reinforcement of the Trump Administration’s strategy of aggressively protecting the vulnerable while opening schools and the workplace.”
A senior administration official told reporters in a background briefing call Monday that the proposed strategy — which has been denounced by other infectious-disease experts and has been called “fringe” and “dangerous” by National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins — supports what has been Trump’s policy for months.
“We’re not endorsing a plan. The plan is endorsing what the president’s policy has been for months. The president’s policy — protect the vulnerable, prevent hospital overcrowding, and open schools and businesses — and he’s been very clear on that,” the official said.
“Everybody knows that 200,000 people died. That’s extremely serious and tragic. But on the other hand, I don’t think society has to be paralyzed, and we know the harms of confining people to their homes,” the official added.
Newsweek has more:
The White House is doubling down on its push to reopen the economy, now openly embracing a herd immunity strategy at the urging of some health experts.
Two senior advisers told Newsweek and other media outlets on Monday that the Trump administration supports the Great Barrington Declaration, a controversial document that argues against lockdowns and calls for a reopening of schools, businesses and other entities, while protecting people deemed vulnerable to the virus because of age or other risk factors.
“I think Americans should be cautiously optimistic about what’s going on here,” one of the officials said.
It should come as no surprise to you that the White House does not even understand how herd immunity works.
Courtesy of CBS News:
The head of the World Health Organization warned Monday against suggestions by some to just allow COVID-19 to spread in the hope of achieving so-called herd immunity, saying this was “unethical.”
“Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it,” Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a virtual press briefing. He explained that “herd immunity is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.”
He pointed out that for measles, for example, it is estimated that if 95% of the population is vaccinated, the remaining 5% will also be protected from the spread of the virus. For polio, the threshold is estimated at 80%. Herd immunity helps protect vulnerable people like infants and those with compromised immune systems who can’t get the vaccine.
Trump’s idea to simply allow the virus to spread until the vulnerable are culled and all that is left are those with a built-in immunity, is not how herd immunity works, however it is the premise for the vast majority of apocalyptic books and moves about a future where mankind was wiped out by circumstances beyond their control.
There are actual, workable, methods for how to protect the majority of us from ever being exposed to this virus, we simply do not have the leadership in place to make that happen.
Rachel Maddox did the math of natural herd immunity that does not factor in vaccines as mentioned that provide herd immunity. Alas, Trump and his administration at last told a truth that their plan has been to have people spread Covid mocking masks and social distancing. There is a catch though millions will die in the meantime until vaccines are deemed safe and the majority of the population are inoculated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVfxjS1DnBc&feature=share
One fundamental problem with trumpsters advocating “protecting the vulnerable while opening schools and the workplace” is that protecting the vulnerable takes
time effort and money and they aren’t going to put in any of that. It would have to be organized and that ain’t their style.
Also, too, almost NONE of us are going to have a dozen doctors and million dollar experimental treatments.
BTW has ANYONE seen javanka in the last 10 days? Hmmm
One would think that the 220,000 + dead Americans would be a large enough “herd” for anyone in the Trump administration. It’s time for the administration to try relying on public heath officials and doing something positive to fight COVID-19. I know Trump thinks the pandemic is over but those of us who live in the real world know that it is not and will not without aggressive approaches by the nation’s medical experts. Let’s let the folks in the Trump administration go attend to the existing herd come November 3 and the rest of the country can begin to take care of the rest of us.
Trump just needs to die.
Every day, that is my wish. Doesn’t matter how. We just need that end result.
I know. If wishes were horses we would all ride. One can only hope that the orange shitgibbon relapses and kicks the bucket.
The real wet dream would be if he took the whole damn family with him. Including his cabinet and a shit pot full of the scummy rethugs.
If you asked me ten years ago if i would ever utter these words I would have you committed on the spot. How times have digressed.
It’s a real shame they adopted this policy AFTER their cult leader got the best medical treatment there is. They should have used Trump himself as a test case for herd immunity.
Yes, isn’t that interesting that trump doesn’t even follow his own policies. Too bad his cult is too stupid to realize that he is just killing them off.
You sound traumatized, in response to the environment. Remember, those thoughts, your beliefs, are not rooted correctly when traumatized.
Bake a cake. Frost it. Give it to someone. The act will be one of compassion, our instinct.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/10/14/melania-trump-says-son-barron-trump-tested-positive-covid-19/3656978001/
The first lady also detailed her experience with the virus Wednesday, saying though she experienced “minimal” symptoms, “a roller coaster of symptoms” hit her “all at once” in the days after her diagnosis.
“I experienced body aches, a cough and headaches, and felt extremely tired most of the time. I chose to go a more natural route in terms of medicine, opting more for vitamins and healthy food,”
melanomia must have been reading a prepared statement because she does not speak English that well.
We’re all going to die.
=================
No we are not because trump is going to get his ass kicked in a few weeks and a sane administration will take over.
They may have to send the national guard to round up all trump supporters who refuse to obey the rules/laws, but trump already built the concentration camps, the immigrants can be released and they can house the trump supporters.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/14/florida-senior-voters-trump-biden-election
‘They’re turned off by him’
The key issues that will determine the beneficiary of Florida’s 29 electoral college votes – Covid-19, the economy, and the pandemic’s impact on it – have particular resonance for older voters, and account for soaring levels of enthusiasm for Biden, according to seniors keen to see the former vice-president return to the White House.
There should be new laws coming that will say “no shoes, no shirt, no mask – no service.”
The thugs will come out with their metal penis extenders but there are a lot more of us than there are of them and they don’t seem to understand we have guns too.
They want to pick a fight they can’t win we will say “bring it on b*tches.”
My thought exactly ‘bring it on b*tches’ all you motherfuckers.
IM Not backing down ever.
Can’t he just open that nail salon brothel in that strip mall by mar a lago and be done with it? Just one brothel for him. But no.
I don’t think he and his crew had the virus. That was one big show wasn’t it? Trump knows the power of playacting. Wonder what he will think up next?
The third wife was wearing her Soviet-style jacket or coat when she gave her COVID-19 “recommendations” of fresh air and healthy diet. Of course she, Trump himself and their son also have the advantage of the best medical care available. What a creepy woman she is.
lazy. just lazy. trumpt is grabbing as much money as he can while he has the chance. he and his brats are taking money meant to help use and the military. ,
except this disease will need a vaccine eyarly, like the flu. That’s how coronaviruses roll. Do we use herd immunity for flu, asshole??