Testimony from top Ukraine official Bill Taylor would appear to be game, set, match for impeachment inquiry.

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So this comes directly from the transcript released today which you can read for youself at this link.

The following can be found on page 8 and 9 of the transcript:

Taylor: I was hopeful that, at the bilateral meeting or shortly thereafter, the White House would lift the hold, but this was not to be. Indeed, I received a readout of the Pence-Zelensky meeting over the phone for [sic] Mr. Morrison, during which he told me President Zelensky had opened the meeting by asking the Vice President about security cooperation.

(This undermines the Republican’s argument that the Ukranians did not know that the assistance was being withheld because here they are asking VP Pence what seemed to be the holdup.)

Taylor: During this same phone call I had with Mr. Morrison, he went on to describe a conversation Ambassador Sondland had with Mr. Yermak at Warsaw.

Ambassador Sondland told Mr. Yermak that the security assistance money would not come until President Zelensky committed to pursue the Burisma investigation.

I was alarmed by what Mr. Morrison told me about the Sondland–Yermak conversation. This was the first time I had heard that security assistance, not just the White House meeting, was conditioned on the investigations.

(And here is where the Ukrainians are being told that receiving the assistance was conditional on their willingness to announce the investigation into Burisma and Joe Biden’s son. That is quid pro quo.)

Schiff: You go on, at the end of that paragraph, top of page 11: “This was the first time I had heard that the security assistance—not just the White House meeting—was conditioned on the investigations.” So both of these things you now had learned were conditioned on these two political investigations, right?

Taylor: That’s correct, sir.

Schiff: That is, but for the Ukrainians’ willingness to do these two investigations, they were not only not going to get the White House meeting, they were also not going to get the military assistance.

Taylor: That is what Mr. Sondland told Mr. Yermak.

There is a break in the transcript here but it picks up again with Taylor’s fairly frustrated response to learning about all of this:

Taylor: Very concerned, on that same day, I sent Ambassador Sondland a text message asking if we are now saying that security assistance and a White House meeting are conditioned on investigations. Ambassador Sondland responded asking me to call him, which I did. During that phone call, Ambassador Sondland told me that President Trump had told him that he wants President Zelensky to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. election.

Ambassador Sondland also told me that he now recognized that he had made a mistake by earlier telling Ukrainian officials to whom he spoke that a White House meeting with President Zelensky was dependent on a public announcement of investigations. In fact, Ambassador Sondland said everything was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance. He said that President Trump wanted President Zelensky in a box by making public statement [sic] about ordering such investigations. In that same September 1st call, I told Ambassador Sondland that President Trump should have more respect for another head of state and that what he described was not in the interest of either President Trump or President Zelensky. At that point, I asked Ambassador Sondland to push back on President Trump’s demand. Ambassador Sondland pledged to try.

Now if that was not clear enough for you here is Adam Schiff helping Bill Taylor drive the stake right through the heart of Trump’s argument against impeachment:

Schiff: And when you say that, this was the first time I heard that the security assistance—not just the White House meeting—was conditioned on the investigation, when you talk about conditioned, did you mean that if they didn’t do this, the investigations, they weren’t going to get that, the meeting and the military assistance?

Taylor: That was my clear understanding, security assistance money would not come until the President [of Ukraine] committed to pursue the investigation.

Schiff: So if they don’t do this, they are not going to get that was your understanding?

Taylor: Yes, sir.

Schiff: Are you aware that quid pro quo literally means this for that?

Taylor: I am.

And there you have it. 

The Republicans have now switched to making the argument that even if it was quid pro quo that does not rise to the level of an impeachable offense. 

Somehow I do not think that the majority of the American people are going to see it that way. 

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17 Comments

  1. Lucy November 6, 2019 at 4:55 pm

    Yes! How many nails does it take to bury this ugly man? Why have we waited this long? Because at the heart of it people who understand how it should work are making every damn legal effort to rid ourselves of this president and the evil he has wrought. A president who was so cynical as to believe running for president would be a good ad campaign to move forward his “brand”. And so we wonder why people voted for him, continue to defend this travesty of justice and depravity. Do they honestly believe taking apart environmental laws, labor laws, basic civil rights and twisting truth beyond all recognition is OK? Is it really only about trashing liberals and progressive ideas? Are some of us so angry they will destroy all that is good for all of us? If so we are screwed.

  2. anonymous November 6, 2019 at 5:26 pm

    What day u Gryph?

    As Impeachment Transcripts Are Released, Media Should Remember They Are Largely Irrelevant

    …. Trump isn’t just relying on the inherent powerlessness of the written word to render the damaging testimony against him impotent. He is also, in an act so brazenly scandalous that for any other modern president it would have been unthinkable without at least significant evidence, alleging that the transcripts themselves may be altered by dirty Democrats trying to rig the process against him (which, since some of the testimony has indicated that the transcript of the infamous phone call with the Ukrainian president was actually altered, appears to be a classic example of Trump projecting).

    So Trump fans will not read the transcripts, are consuming state-run media that won’t give proper weight or context to what is in them, and their God-King-President has already ordered them not to trust anything they hear about them anyway. Consequently, the transcripts will have no impact on the trajectory of the impeachment process.

    Yes, in theory, the juiciest portions of what has been said behind closed doors will eventually be repeated in public and on camera. However, there are several problems with even that scenario.

    https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/as-impeachment-transcripts-are-released-media-should-remember-they-are-largely-irrelevant/

    Remember this guy from Palin days…he went from lovestruck to not a fan. He’s not a Trump fan as far as I can tell.

  3. Anonymous November 6, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    Every time they nail the guy, the republicans scurry around and lower the bar. they did they same thing with the russian meddling.

    Same song and dance, first there is no crime, then he did it but it isn’t a crime, it is a crime and he did it but not enough to impeach blah blah bla and these are the folks with the pitch forks and torches that went after Clinton for lying about a consensual affair, but blackmailing our allies is ok if your political opponent is a democrat.

  4. anonymous November 6, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    Mark Halperin’s ‘How to Beat Trump’ Sells 502 Copies in First Week

    Halperin was once a top political commentator who teamed with John Heilemann on the million-selling Game Change, an inside account of the 2008 presidential election about Sarah Palin. In October 2017, CNN reported that five women said Halperin had made inappropriate and unwelcome sexual advances while he was director of political coverage at ABC News 10 years earlier.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/mark-halperins-how-beat-trump-sells-502-copies-first-week-1252960

    • Anonymous November 9, 2019 at 8:38 pm

      The Mooch claims the one person Trump is afraid to face in an election is….. Bloomberg. Yeah, Mooch thinks Bloomberg is the only one that can beat Trump. Take that for what it’s worth.

  5. anonymous November 6, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    Trump Reportedly Wanted AG Barr to Hold a Presser Clearing Him on Ukraine Call, But Barr Refused

    President Trump wanted Attorney General William P. Barr to hold a news conference declaring that the commander in chief had broken no laws during a phone call in which he pressed his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate a political rival, though Barr ultimately declined to do so, people familiar with the matter said.
    The request from Trump traveled from the president to other White House officials and eventually to the Justice Department. The president has mentioned Barr’s demurral to associates in recent weeks, saying he wished Barr would have held the news conference, Trump advisers say.

    In recent weeks, the Justice Department has sought some distance from the White House, particularly on matters relating to the burgeoning controversy over Trump’s dealings on Ukraine and the impeachment inquiry they sparked.

    https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-reportedly-wanted-ag-barr-to-hold-a-presser-clearing-him-on-ukraine-call-but-barr-refused/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-wanted-barr-to-hold-news-conference-saying-the-president-broke-no-laws-in-call-with-ukrainian-leader/2019/11/06/16d541ec-ff55-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html

  6. Anonymous November 7, 2019 at 1:01 am

    “Federal law makes it a crime for an official to demand or threaten another party to obtain something of value — a definition that appears to cover Trump’s decision to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to the country unless its leader agreed to launch investigations advantageous to Trump’s reelection efforts.”

    And Trump set the value. That $4 million dollar APPROVED military aid package that he had put on hold until Ukraine submitted to his demands.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ukraine-extortion_n_5dc0a6dde4b0bedb2d5149ee

    “The relevant law is known as the Hobbs Act, said Danya Perry, a former prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney’s office in New York City. Its definition of “extortion” includes obtaining property using “threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right,” meaning using one’s official capacity. The crime is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

    “The statute is often applied to a demand or a threat made by a public official in order to obtain something of value in exchange for his or her performance of an official act. The House is examining, among other things, whether the Ukrainian government felt under pressure to investigate the Bidens as a prerequisite to receiving potentially life-saving military assistance,” she said, referring to former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter. “To be clear, we do not yet know how the evidence will play out and certainly there may be valid available defenses, but it is certainly possible to make out a prima facie case.””

    20 years after he loses in November of 2020. Wouldn’t it be loverly? No wonder the buffoon is talkng about staying in the White House for another 21 years. They only way he can escape indictment, prosecution, conviction and a prison term is to continue to be president until he dies. He probably thinks he can declare martial law and suspend elections to do it. This maniac is perfectly capable of starting a war just to do it.

    “Bill Weld, who ran the Justice Department’s criminal division under President Ronald Reagan and is now running against Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination, said Trump could also be charged with bribery. “The Hobbs Act is an extortion statute, and the same facts can constitute extortion and bribery, as here,” he said.”

  7. Anonymous November 7, 2019 at 1:14 am

    Moscow Mitch is buying votes.

    https://news.yahoo.com/senate-leader-mcconnell-backs-bill-232641156.html

    “Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell joined a bipartisan group of senators on Wednesday in introducing a bill to secure the pensions for nearly 90,000 retired coal miners as a recent wave of coal company bankruptcies threatens the solvency of the federal pension fund.

    The Bipartisan American Miners Act, co-sponsored by McConnell, of Kentucky, and West Virginia Senators Joe Manchin, a Democrat, and Shelly Moore Capito, a Republican, would transfer funds from the federal abandoned mine lands program to avert insolvency of the United Mineworkers of America pension plan.

    Kentucky and West Virginia are among the biggest U.S. coal-producing states.”

    This right after Murray Energy declaried bankruptcy to escape their responsibility for miners’ pensions.

    And to be fair, Manchin isn’t really a Democrat.

    “The bill does not address the future of the federal program to ensure medical coverage for miners suffering black lung disease, which UMWA has been urging lawmakers to address ”

    And Moscow Mitch and the Republicans are going to repeal the ACA so…don’t get sick and if you do, die fast. That’s the GOP healthcare plan.

  8. Anonymous November 7, 2019 at 1:16 am

    Jeff Sessions wants his old job back. No, not that one. Senator from Alabama.

    https://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-jeff-sessions-announce-223810757.html

    “Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions will announce that he is entering the race for his old U.S. Senate seat in Alabama, two Republicans with direct knowledge of his plans said Wednesday.”

    “The two Republicans confirmed to The Associated Press that Sessions is expected to announce his candidacy Thursday. They were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. They said Sessions has not spoken to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell about it, nor has he informed Trump of his decision.

    The longtime senator’s candidacy upends the 2020 Republican primary, which has a crowded field competing to challenge Democratic Sen. Doug Jones for the once reliably red seat.”

    So, he’s going to try to take Doug Jones’ seat. This should be interesting.

  9. Bruises That Track Caused November 7, 2019 at 7:36 am

    The baby isn’t in the bathwater. Throw it out. Throw that Jesus out.

  10. anon November 7, 2019 at 7:44 am

    “Former national security adviser John Bolton is reportedly “willing to defy” the Trump White House and serve as a witness in the House of Representatives’ impeachment inquiry.”<Rawstory

    • Anonymous November 8, 2019 at 1:48 am

      Then why is he saying he’ll sue if subpoenaed?

  11. anon November 7, 2019 at 8:06 am

    Giuliani’s tweets match up with reporting that he is obsessed with Ukraine/Biden conspiracy theories, and has gotten into Trump’s ear about them.

    The problem is that Giuliani admitted that he and Trump were conducting a shadow foreign policy to shakedown Ukraine for a Biden investigation to benefit Trump’s reelection campaign.

    With each new tweet, Guiliani buries Trump a little deeper.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/06/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-tweet.html

  12. anon November 7, 2019 at 8:08 am

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/06/trump-bill-taylor-notes.html

    If Trump really did nothing wrong, he should be handing over every single piece of paper to the impeachment investigation because it would clear his name.

  13. Anonymous November 9, 2019 at 8:34 pm

    Apparently Zelensky was ready to go on CNN and fulfill Trump’s extortion demands when Congress released the money so he didn’t have to.

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