Kremlin says that White House needs Russia’s permission to share transcripts of Putin/Trump phone calls.

By |2019-09-30T06:14:38-08:00September 30th, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , , , |33 Comments

Wait, so the Trump Administration has to ask Russia’s permission before making a decision?

I’m sorry, I temporarily forgot for whom this president really works. 

Courtesy of Reuters

The Kremlin said on Monday that Washington would need Russian consent to publish transcripts of phone calls between U.S. President Donald Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

Congress is determined to get access to Trump’s calls with Putin and other world leaders, the U.S. House Intelligence Committee’s chairman said on Sunday, citing concerns that the Republican president may have jeopardized national security.

Asked about those comments, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters Russia would be prepared to discuss the issue with Washington if it sent Moscow a signal, but that such disclosures were not normal diplomatic practice.

“Of course their publication is to some extent only possible by mutual agreement of the parties. This is a certain diplomatic practice,” Peskov said.

“To be more specific, perhaps, diplomatic practice in general does not envisage their publication. If there are some signals from the Americans, then we will discuss (them).”

Congressional Democrats really want to get their hands on those transcripts and somehow I doubt they are interested in getting Putin’s permission first. 

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33 Comments

    • Whatevs September 30, 2019 at 1:52 pm

      From your second thread (and thanks for all the laughs on the first)

      Eugene Gu, MD@eugenegu
      ·
      5h
      Richard Nixon resigned because in spite of all his criminal activity, he understood that there were consequences for his actions and that it’s better to own up to them than to destroy the country by clinging to power after breaking the law.

      This is incorrect; if Nixon resigned he kept his Presidential pension. If he was impeached he stood to lose it.
      https://www.nytimes.com/1974/08/04/archives/nixon-would-forfeit-60000-pension-if-convicted-some-in-gop-see.html

  1. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 8:40 am

    Don’t forget that one of the talking points pushed by Russia’s troll farm was that there would be a civil war if Democrats tried to impeach Trump. An interesting coinkydink, right?

    From the criminal complaint filed in federal court:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1178648079450464256

  2. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 8:41 am

    Civil War,
    The banal frontier.
    These are the voyages of the
    Starship Kleptocracy
    It’s two and a half year mission:
    To explore strange new words,
    Seek out new crimes,
    And new extortions;
    To boldly deny,
    What no man has denied before.

    • Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 8:42 am

      Trump raising the idea of a civil war is simply his way of putting that thought in the mind of his base. As experts on fascism have explained, Trump is priming his base so they are there for him when he calls on them to take up arms.

    • Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 8:45 am

      Internet fires back at Trump after he threatens ‘Civil War’ if he’s impeached: ‘We’re dealing with a disturbed sociopath’

      https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/internet-fires-back-at-trump-after-he-threatens-civil-war-if-hes-impeached-were-dealing-with-a-disturbed-sociopath/

      • Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:16 am

        Is trump going to ask for a medical exemption for FAKE bone spurs for his civil war?

        This should be added to the articles of impeachment, threatening American citizens with civil war, so much for upholding the Constitution.

    • Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 2:37 pm

      Well done.

  3. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 8:44 am

    Mitch McConnell insists he won’t bend Senate rules to stop vote on Trump impeachment

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/mitch-mcconnell-insists-he-wont-bend-senate-rules-to-stop-vote-on-trump-impeachment/

    Lawyer who is accused of working with Giuliani says Trump haters at Fox News outed him as ‘payback’

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/lawyer-who-is-accused-of-working-with-giuliani-says-trump-haters-at-fox-news-outed-him-as-payback/

    • Whatevs September 30, 2019 at 1:54 pm

      However, McConnel can then call foe dismissal.

      Do not trust #MoscowMitch or #ChinaChao.

      • #RacistRapist2020 September 30, 2019 at 2:31 pm

        #MoscowMitch or #ChinaChao

        aka Koch Dealer$

  4. Apps Stink September 30, 2019 at 8:51 am

    Also too, sarah should have to grant permission to anyone wanting to cook/bake one of her holiday recipes, right?

  5. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 9:47 am

    WTF?

    GOP senators push Bill Barr to investigate whether Dems colluded with Ukraine to sink Trump

    Two GOP senators are asking the Justice Department to open an investigation into claims Democrats colluded with the Ukrainian government to find negative information about Trump during the run up to the 2016 election, The Washington Times reports.

    Senators Ron Johnson (WI) and Charles E. Grassley (IA) reached out to Attorney General William Barr and asked him to provide more information on alleged Ukrainian attempts to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign. According to the pair, Democratic consultant Alexandra Chalupa worked with the Ukrainians on opposition research regarding Trump.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/gop-senators-push-bill-barr-to-investigate-whether-dems-colluded-with-ukraine-to-sink-trump/

    But the GOP colluding with Russia to steal the presidency is ok?????

  6. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:04 am

    ‘Stop putting Rudy Giuliani on TV — he’s drunk’: Conservative hilariously trashes Trump response to Ukraine debacle

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/stop-putting-rudy-giuliani-on-tv-hes-drunk-conservative-hilariously-trashes-trump-response-to-ukraine-debacle/

  7. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:06 am

    Liar or idiot? Here’s the alarming truth about Trump’s bizarre obsession with conspiracy theories

    If there one thing is absolutely certain about Donald Trump, it’s that he’s a liar. When the Washington Post last updated its Trump fact-checker on Aug. 5, Trump was up to an average 13 false claims a day, a number that has no doubt escalated in the wake of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s announcement of a formal impeachment inquiry. But it’s not limited to his lying mouth. Everything about Trump is a lie: His hair, his skin color, his reputation as a businessman, his self-identification as sexually dynamic, his claims to be “great-looking” and a “stable genius.”

    Lies come more easily to Trump than the truth, it seems. That’s why the simplest explanation for his tendency toward insane conspiracy theories is not that he’s actually duped by the nonsense he spouts, but that he’s trying to dupe his followers, in the same way he spent his career duping customers, charities and contractors. Trump’s greatest and perhaps only real pleasure in life is getting one over on someone else. So when he spreads conspiracy theories, such as that Hillary Clinton had his friend Jeffrey Epstein murdered, or that he lost the popular vote in 2016 due to widespread voter fraud, the safe bet is that he knows it’s not true and he’s just trying to bamboozle his gullible followers, whom he holds in obvious contempt.

    But in the wake of revelations that Trump attempted to extort Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to manufacture a fake scandal meant to undermine Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, the questions is being raised once again: Is Trump getting high on his own supply? Does this consummate liar now believe his own conspiracy theories?

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/liar-or-idiot-heres-the-alarming-truth-about-trumps-bizarre-obsession-with-conspiracy-theories/

  8. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:09 am

    ‘Ignorant’ Lindsey Graham flayed on Morning Joe for epic legal flop

    “Then you have Lindsey Graham, who of course loved the idea of impeachment in 1999,” Scarborough said, “and now Lindsey Graham talking about hearsay as if he is a kid that hasn’t even taken the LSAT yet, and he is running the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he has no idea how hearsay does or does not play into evidence.”

    Scarborough said the whistleblower’s claims are corroborated by call summary records released by the White House, and he urged the Republican senator to examine that evidence, or take remedial law courses.

    “No, no, no, Lindsey, you need to read a Hornbook on evidence, you need to go back to the very beginning,” Scarborough said. “Oh, my god. It is staggering that this guy runs the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he knows nothing about hearsay or else he is just acting in such bad faith that he doesn’t even deserve a voting card. This is black-and-white law, and Lindsey is wrong.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/ignorant-lindsey-graham-flayed-on-morning-joe-for-epic-legal-flop/

  9. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:16 am

    Getting ugly

    Following a tumultuous weekend of tweets and right-wing media reports on the identity of the anonymous whistleblower, Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chair Mark Warner (D-VA) expressed grave concern about the safety of the individual who came forward with complaints about President Trump’s call with the Ukrainian president.

    “This program has allowed folks to come forward in a protected way when they’ve seen abuse. And this president’s failure to honor that, to recognize that the whistleblower deserves protections and what the chilling effect it would have on our whole intelligence community, which more than any other area, needs to have the ability to not be politicized, to speak truth to power and if they say something, if they see something,” Warner said.

    When asked if he’s concerned about the whistleblower’s safety, Warner didn’t mince words: “Any rational person would be concerned about the whistleblower’s safety after the President’s comments, which led some press outlets on the right, who were actually offering a bounty on trying to reveal the whistleblower’s identity.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mark-warner-concerned-safety-whistleblower-trump-attacks

    • Whatevs September 30, 2019 at 1:59 pm

      Especially after the oh so convenient “suicide” of Jeffrey Epstein, And Russia/Putin’s penchant for using nerve agents on dissenters and defectors. Who are the foreign terrorists in our midst? I don’t think the Middle East is the problem here.

    • anonymous September 30, 2019 at 2:47 pm

      “…this president’s failure to honor that,..” anyone expecting the illegitimate president to have any honor needs to recall that in his thug definition it’s simply, ‘on her, offer’, on her, offer’.

  10. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:17 am

    Well the transcripts are on little donnie’s secret server, so I don’t think we need his master’s permission to access them.

    I want to see trump use this excuse, it will prove he is a traitor and working for putin.

  11. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:18 am

    How DOJ Was Poised To Stifle The IC IG’s Whistleblower Complaint

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/justice-department-white-house-whistleblower-complaint-cia

    • Anon September 30, 2019 at 11:34 am

      “On August 14, the CIA general counsel alerted the Justice Department about what she was looking into, CNN reported, and DOJ lawyers went to the White House to look at the rough transcript themselves.
      That was when the Department of Justice first became aware of the call, according to the AP, and what it concerned — including a mention of Attorney General Bill Barr himself. The information was passed up the DOJ chain, including to Barr. It was more than a week later, towards the end of August, that the intelligence community inspector general made his criminal referral to the Justice Department, according to CNN.”

      “On Sept. 3, the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel issued an opinion determining that the complaint did not meet that “urgent concern” definition and that that the allegations could stay within the Justice Department’s purview, rather than be turned over to Congress. The Justice Department decided that what Trump was seeking on the call — an investigation into the family of political rival — did not constitute a thing of value under campaign finance law and thus an investigation into a campaign finance violation was not warranted. Atkinson notified the House Intelligence Committee on Sept. 9 that a complaint existed even as he was being blocked by the administration from providing it. Had he not done so, it’s possible that no one outside of the executive branch would have ever known about the details of the call and the whistleblower’s other allegations.”

  12. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:20 am

    Warning flares from Tom Bossert and Adam Kinzinger show the risks of Trump’s hyperbolic defense

    The president is running the smashmouth playbook he learned from Roy Cohn, his mentor and Joe McCarthy’s hatchet man. It’s worked repeatedly for Trump, from fighting the Justice Department’s investigation of racial discrimination at his family’s rental properties in the 1970s to overcoming Bob Mueller’s investigation the past two years. Among other things, this strategy involves denying everything and counterattacking critics by accusing them of whatever you’ve been accused of.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2019/09/30/daily-202-warning-flares-from-tom-bossert-and-adam-kinzinger-show-the-risks-of-trump-s-hyperbolic-defense/5d91864e602ff14beb3daa53/

  13. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:28 am

    Panic!!!

    Nervous Trump Panics As Support For Impeachment Tops 50%

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/09/30/nervous-trump-panics-as-support-for-impeachment-tops-50.html

    • Whatevs September 30, 2019 at 2:05 pm

      Last line should have read – and that once impeached and out of office, he is subject to criminal prosecution on all fronts.

  14. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:42 am

    President Pelosi? It could happen.

    The blueprint for the situation facing the House speaker

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/30/president-pelosi-it-could-happen/

  15. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:44 am
    • Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:48 am

      This is the best Republicans have got?

      Last week, I wrote that Democrats worried about public support for impeachment hearings should not be scared — moving ahead with the hearings would likely be followed by an increase in public support. And so it’s proved to be true — thanks in no small part to how lazily Republicans are defending the president.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/29/this-is-best-republicans-have-got/

  16. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:50 am

    Trump threatened ‘civil war.’ He’s cornered — and panicking about it.

    President Trump has now approvingly quoted a top supporter raising the prospect of “civil war.” He accused unnamed national security officials in his own government of “spying” on him. He just called for a top Democrat in Congress to be arrested for “treason.”
    And that was all in the last 24 hours.
    All of this has many observers warning that Trump is lurching in an increasingly authoritarian direction, as the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry ratchets up.
    But all of this is better seen as an expression of deep panic and self-incrimination — not just because the latest revelations have Trump on the defensive but also because of a meaningful shift in the power dynamics shaping the standoff between the White House and Democrats.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/30/trump-is-cornered-his-civil-war-threat-stinks-panic/

  17. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 10:51 am

    I helped classify calls for two presidents. The White House abuse of the system is alarming.

    Moving a conversation to the ‘code word’ server can be justified only by national security concerns

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/29/i-helped-classify-calls-two-presidents-white-house-abuse-system-is-alarming/

  18. nanna September 30, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    Trump is insane. None of his enablers can control him and I’m guessing that as a consequence all of their own evil deeds will come to light in 2020.

    Just imagine for a moment that’s possible that Moscow Mitch is way more evil than we already know…

  19. Anonymous September 30, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    What happened to his “yea I did, so what, it isn’t illegal” defense?

  20. Anonymous October 2, 2019 at 9:10 pm

    Uh, no, I don’t think so. While it might not be polite or diplomatic that never stopped Trump before so shouldn’t be a problem regarding this investigation.

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