Jeffrey Epstein autopsy reveals broken bones in his neck most common with victims of homicide by strangulation.

By |2019-08-15T06:21:28-08:00August 15th, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , |39 Comments

He was murdered.

Courtesy of WaPo:

An autopsy found that financier Jeffrey Epstein sustained multiple breaks in his neck bones, according to two people familiar with the findings, deepening the mystery about the circumstances around his death.

Among the bones broken in Epstein’s neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam’s apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said.

The details are the first findings to emerge from the autopsy of Epstein, a convicted sex offender and multimillionaire in federal custody on charges of sex trafficking. He died early Saturday morning after guards found him hanging in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan and he could not be revived.

Attorney General William P. Barr, whose department oversees the Bureau of Prisons facility where Epstein died, has described his death as an “apparent suicide.” Justice officials declined to comment on the new information from Epstein’s autopsy.

The office of New York City’s chief medical examiner, Barbara Sampson, completed an autopsy of Epstein’s body Sunday. But Sampson listed the cause of his death as pending.

Asked about the neck injuries, Sampson said in a statement that no single factor in an autopsy can alone provide a conclusive answer about what happened.

I don’t care what conclusion Bill Barr’s Bureau of Prisons eventually reach, I am telling you that Epstein was killed. 

As you guys know I trained in marial arts for quite a number of years, and I also wrestled in high school. 

I have used choke holds, headlocks, and pain compliance techniques over and over again. 

I have never broken a neck, but I have broken a bone.

It requires some real force.

I can tell you that the muscles in the neck are quite powerful and very resistant to the kind of twisting that would be necessary to break a neck. 

Movies that you see where somebody’s neck is broken with a simple twist to the side are bullshit, it takes a herculean effort to beak the bones in the neck. 

And we are talking about the bones in the front of the neck where the Adams Apple is located and that would require either a hard impact in that location or the force from being strangled by somebody pushing their thumbs into that particular place.  

In order to do the same from a hanging you would need a hard drop from some height and with something strong enough to handle the sudden jerk at the end. 

Reember that Fox news interview with a former inmate who was held in the same facility as Epstein?

Here is what he said:

There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility.

Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.

You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.

Could he have done it from the bed? No sir. There’s a steel frame, but you can’t move it. There’s no light fixture. There’s no bars.

So tell me, how in the fuck was Epstein able to kill himself with paper thin sheets, in a room with nowhere to tie them off, and in such a way that it broke the bones in the front of his neck?

I tell you he could not have accomplished that on his own.

He was murdered. 

P.S. Oh and by the way Epstein’s body was just claimed by an “unidentified associate.” 

I can guarantee you that there will be no further forensic examinations now. 

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39 Comments

  1. go jesus August 15, 2019 at 8:34 am

    Waiting for the update of how Bill and Hillary pulled it off.

    • anon August 15, 2019 at 9:07 am

      Must have been Chelsea. At their advanced age I don’t believe Bill or Hillary would have the hand strength to do the job. Trump is also off the hook. His hands are too small.

    • Anon August 15, 2019 at 11:53 am

      It had to be Hillary with the paper-like sheets. There is no other explanation.

      • nanna August 15, 2019 at 1:06 pm

        but hey why is Chelsea having all those kids if not to squeeze between prison bars?

  2. Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 8:50 am

    The Mooch ain’t pulling his punches

    “I’m done with the guy because its a sign he’s completely crazy,” the Mooch said. “He’s alienated every single person in the White House. He doesn’t talk to anybody in the White House. People are afraid of him…The entire party is scared of him, at least the people that are elected officials. They don’t like him. He has a base of supporters that like him, but he’s got 58 to 60 percent of the country who dislikes him.”

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/scaramucci-goes-off-on-trump-hes-mentally-declining-and-alienated-everyone-in-white-house/

    • nanna August 15, 2019 at 1:09 pm

      scaramucci never has anything interesting to say to but they put him on TV to say it anyway

  3. Anon August 15, 2019 at 9:21 am

    Conclusion: find the person whose thumbs are capable of “herculean” strength and you’ve found the murderer!

  4. Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 9:31 am

    Epstein’s bodyguard spills the beans

    Jeffrey Epstein’s Bodyguard on His Former Boss’s Lifestyle, Cruelty, ‘Suicide’

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/jeffrey-epsteins-bodyguard-igor-zinoviev-on-his-old-boss.html

    • Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 1:06 pm

      Jeffrey Epstein’s former bodyguard claims pedophile had ‘help’ killing himself and warns of ‘big trouble’ asking questions about financier’s ties to local cops during paranoid interview in which he retracts previous quotes about underage girls

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7360713/Jeffrey-Epsteins-bodyguard-claims-help-killing-himself.html

      • Anonymous August 16, 2019 at 5:45 am

        Wonder if he got to od on blissful opiates and fall asleep never to wake up, and then they made it look like suicide by strangling and stringing him?

  5. Anon August 15, 2019 at 9:40 am

    Barr today denied that his DNA was on the sheet that hung Jeffrey.

    He did say he authorized the strongest Egyptian cotton sheets be put on Jeffery’s bed

    He also said the FBI raid on pedo island led to the discovery all 33,000 missing emails and Hillary will soon be arrested.

  6. Anon August 15, 2019 at 10:38 am

    I’ve been joking that of course someone murdered him – I’ve seen Sons of Anarchy and Orange is the new black 😉 in all seriousness, good riddance. He did everyone a favor and died.

  7. Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 10:49 am

    It’s the way of the mob world. They silenced him. Period. Too much at stake with VERY powerful and sick men who thrive on abusing young girls. Probably boys, too. The deprived do not want to be exposed and they weren’t going to take any chances on Epstein making a ‘deal’ to save his ass and ultimately dpilling his guts.

    • Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 10:51 am

      The DEPRAVED ( not deprived)

  8. Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 10:57 am

    I understand why it’s hard for normal people to believe that white evangelical Christians are sadists. Normal people have never been, as I was a long time ago, on the inside of that shadowy religious world. But the sooner they understand this, the sooner normal people will see that white evangelical Christian support for Donald Trump isn’t rooted in hypocrisy, contradiction or merely straying from the straight and narrow. The reason they support a fascist president is simple: They’re sadists.

    The word “sadist” is off-putting. I get that. But if you’re thinking of sex, you’re thinking in the wrong way. If you’re thinking of “pleasure,” as in sexual pleasure, you’re thinking the wrong way. The pleasure white evangelical Christians derive from the suffering of human beings deemed less human than they are is not about sex. It’s about the pain, humiliation or even violence out-groups deserve by dint of being out-groups. Gay men, for instance, deserve their punishment because they are gay. Punishment for being gay is “divine justice.” From such “justice” comes pleasure—which is sadism.

    https://stoehr.substack.com/p/for-white-evangelicals-its-not-about

    • Anonymous August 15, 2019 at 5:21 pm

      I think you’re on to something here. Many family members of mine are staunch Trump supporter, and they mostly are behind the suffering of immigrants that he is causing. They seem to enjoy it. It’s sickening. I think that if they can’t be rich, seeing people that they believe are beneath them suffering is the next best thing. Trump will never help them financially, but he will punish people deemed lower than they are, which is the next best thing,

  9. Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 11:00 am

    Judges facing more and more ‘terrifying’ threats amid Trump’s attacks: American Bar Association

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/judges-facing-more-and-more-terrifying-threats-amid-trumps-attacks-american-bar-association-warns/

  10. anon August 15, 2019 at 11:32 am

    so yeah — hyoid bone broke equals strangulation in every crime story i have ever read/seen — i suppose they oould all be wrong on purpose. nah.

  11. Anonymous August 15, 2019 at 11:51 am

    I am puzzled why the warden didn’t do the press conference for their important number ! prisoner.
    Why did the AG suddenly take over? The updates by prison/legal official’s in Manhanttan could have answered questions early on and avoided a lot of the conspiracy theories.
    Barr is now acting like he is really out to find the truth and he wants justice for the victims. Some rearranging in the prison system that he suddenly discovered was a mess. He is blaming employees for a bad job. Heads are not actaully rolling they are merely moving warden and others around a little.

  12. Anonymous August 15, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    Yeah. We wont miss ole jeffy. But doonie boy got his ass saved again along with numerous powers that be. I notice there are some trolls on this site. Always there to remind us that bill clinton was a playa like ole donnie boy. Why they so protective over donnie boy makes me wonder if it is yer ole dependable russain troll or really really one of those diehard donald trump supporters with a moldy ass and a fat typing fing and no brain circulation due to his or her maga hat?

    • nanna August 15, 2019 at 1:18 pm

      Bill Clinton was not a “playa”, fuckwit. Instead of trying to smear him, go read the manifests of his trips on the jet if you can read.

  13. Anon August 15, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    With Jeffrey Epstein Dead, the Search Is on for Alleged Recruiter Ghislaine Maxwell
    The Department of Justice is now fully humiliated by, first, their lenient treatment of the convicted child sex trafficker, and then for letting him die in their custody. DOJ lawyers had cravenly agreed with Epstein’s legal team in 2008 to keep the case quiet, but last year, dogged reporting from the Miami Herald’s Julie Brown finally brought the trafficked women’s stories to light. And last week, the day preceding Epstein’s death, a New York court released over 2,000 pages of lurid details.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-recruiter-history-871182/

    Betcha Mother Maxwell will never be found alive.

  14. Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    Blood vessels in Jeffrey Epstein’s eyes had popped and he had broken bones in his neck linked to hanging OR strangulation, autopsy reveals – as pedophile’s mystery ‘associate’ claims the body

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7359111/Autopsy-finds-Jeffrey-Epstein-broken-bones-neck-raising-questions-suicide.html

  15. Anonymously August 15, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    EXCLUSIVE: Jeffrey Epstein shipped $50K cement truck to ‘Pedophile Island’ three weeks before damning expose was released, paying for machine up front so it would arrive quicker, as experts say he could have ‘literally covered up evidence’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7361297/Jeffrey-Epstein-shipped-50K-cement-truck-Pedophile-Island-cover-evidence.html

  16. nanna August 15, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    They say Epstein was confident he would get off (probably meaning strings could and would be pulled) and quite chipper the last time his lawyers saw him.

    I hope he suffered.

    • snon August 15, 2019 at 9:20 pm

      Please stop. It is not correct to desire suffering on another.

      • nanna August 16, 2019 at 12:59 am

        Q. Who made you the minister for decorum, little concern troll?

        A. Nobody.

        Please find somewhere else to get attention, preferably somewhere you can have English lessons.

        • Anonymous August 16, 2019 at 5:43 am

          Ha. nanna mad, so mad nanna. God help your family that has to put up with you.

      • Anonymous August 16, 2019 at 5:49 am

        Um, yes it is. Actually in this case, it is proper.

        • Anonymous August 16, 2019 at 7:34 am

          No, it isn’t.

          Wishing him harm is no different than the Trumpsters cheering about the deplorable conditions that immigrants are held in. This disgusts us, but then we turn around and wish the same to someone we consider unworthy.

          It’s wrong, doesn’t matter who it is.

  17. Open Minded August 15, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    Here’s a more scientific and logical view of Epstein’s potential manner of death, from an emergency room physician who also teaches at Harvard:

    https://slate.com/technology/2019/08/epstein-broken-hyoid-bone-suicide-murder.html

    • Gryphen August 15, 2019 at 4:31 pm

      Nobody checked on him for over two hours which is against protocol.

      He claimed he was attacked by his cellmate earlier and did not try to commit suicide.

      He was by all accounts in good spirits on the day of his death and even had hope of getting a lighter sentence by cooperating.

      His hyoid bone was broken which can happen in hangings but is most often found in victims of strangulation.

      A former inmate claims that there is no way to hang yourself in the cell in which Epstein was housed.

      I’ll stick to my earlier assessment.

      • Anonymous August 15, 2019 at 5:25 pm

        The official story is that he wrapped sheets around a bed frame, since there was no high fixture for him to hang on. Then he simply leaned down and let gravity do the work. I don’t think that would cause bones in his neck to break. There’s just not enough force there.

        • Gryphen August 15, 2019 at 6:07 pm

          Right.

          He could asphyxiate himself that way but certainly not break any bones.

          • Anonymous August 15, 2019 at 6:46 pm

            People are often more upbeat in the time period between when they have mentally decided to commit suicide and go thru with it.

      • Open Minded August 16, 2019 at 2:30 pm

        Perfect example of the Dunning Kruger effect. You don’t care what medical experts say about Epstein’s death. You know better, Gryphen, because you have wrestling experience. That makes a lot of sense.

    • Anon August 15, 2019 at 6:29 pm

      @Open Minded I’m sorry, did you think this was a place for disscussion? Nay, my friend. Simply nod your head in agreement and all will be well.

  18. nanna August 16, 2019 at 1:11 am

    First you have to believe that an egotist like Epstein thought he should die. Dude had no sense of shame, he considered he was just having a good time and everyone else was square or jealous. A lot of weak minds were convinced that he was “special”. He had his previous jailers eating out of his hand. He knew some very useful shit, he had enough money to pay his lawyers to babysit him all day at the jail, what reason did he have to “hang” himself unindicted, untried, unconvicted?

    In any case, I hope he knew Trump’s men were coming for him and that no amount of money or friends could save him. And I hope the life that flashed before his eyes was one of the many that he ruined.

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