Federal weather workers and their own scientists are furious that NOAA defended Donald Trump’s inane prediction that Dorian would hit Alabama.

By |2019-09-11T11:21:35-08:00September 8th, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , , , , |15 Comments


So that was the tweet seemingly sent out by NOAA on Friday evening.

It did not go over well to say the least.

Courtesy of Business Insider

Federal weather workers have reacted furiously to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) defence of US President Donald Trump’s repeated assertions that Hurricane Dorian was set to hit Alabama, saying they have been “thrown under the bus” by the agency.

The NOAA on Friday said that its information about how Alabama could be impacted by Hurricane Dorian and Trump’s subsequent claims about it were an accurate reflection of their analysis.

Those statements from the NOAA Friday have sparked outrage among many federal workers in the weather and climate science sectors, with the president of the National Weather Service Employees Organization (NWSEO) accusing the agency of undermining the work of its staff.

“Never ever before has their management thrown them under the bus like this,” Dan Sobien, president of the National Weather Service Employees Organization told the Daily Beast.

“These are the people risking their lives flying into hurricanes and putting out forecasts that save lives. Never before has their management undercut their scientifically sound reasoning and forecasts.”

He added that weather workers are “shocked, stunned and irate” at the statement.

Even NOAA’s own scientists were blindsided by the decision to support Trump’s statement.

Courtesy of WaPo: 

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s decision to back President Trump instead of its own scientists on the question of whether Alabama was at significant risk from Hurricane Dorian has led to widespread outrage in the broader weather community.

Many critics say NOAA’s decision to back Trump is putting politics before facts and undermining forecasters’ ability to carry out their mission to protect life and property, while eroding public trust. They also worry about how the statement will affect Weather Service forecasters’ morale.

Three former NOAA heads have expressed this concern. Kathryn Sullivan, a former NASA astronaut who ran the agency under President Barack Obama, said that throughout NOAA’s history, the agency — including its political appointees — has committed “to not let any political factors sway the scientific credibility and clarity of Weather Service forecasts and warnings.”

She stated: “The anonymous and disingenuous statement NOAA tweeted out is a major breach of scientific integrity that damages the NWS and stains the agency’s leadership.”

 I don’t know quite how he does it, but Donald Trump literally destroys the reputation of every single person who comes into contact with him. 

It’s like in order to survive in his company you must leave your integrity at the door. 

By the time Trump leaves office there will not be a single person in the country who trusts anybody in government. 

And perhaps that was the goal all along. 

About the Author:

This blog is dedicated to finding the truth, exposing the lies, and holding our politicians and leaders accountable when they fall far short of the promises that they have made to both my fellow Alaskans and the American people.

15 Comments

  1. Anon September 8, 2019 at 6:40 am - Reply

    This is depressing, disillusioning and disgusting. I live in Richmond, VA and have many relatives in FL, and enjoy N.C. beaches. I followed Dorian forecasts almost every 3 hours while awake and periodically checked the spaghetti models beginning last Friday although I followed tracking by US and European models.
    Never did I see Alabama included in predicted tracks and most certainly not Sept. 1st when Trump stated Alabama was included. This is another case of let him win pulling one over on people, attack others as liars and manipulate an agency to cover his mistake giving old information as current.

  2. Penelope September 8, 2019 at 6:45 am - Reply

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/noaa-staffers-were-warned-not-to-contradict-trump-on-hurricane-dorian-report/

    “staffers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) were warned to not issue any corrections on statements President Donald Trump made about Hurricane Dorian.

    With one official now backing the president’s remarks about the possibility of Alabama being hit by the tropical hurricane — that came long after it changed course and moved up the eastern seaboard — the Post notes the NOAA wanted staffers and scientists to remain silent.”

    • Anonymous September 8, 2019 at 8:14 pm - Reply

      lol. rawstory…. writing up their own spin totally based on a laughable Washington Post “story”

      The quoted Washington Post’s informers….. Anonymous! No way that is so hard to believe, yet more ANONYMOUS information providers/sources. Always anonymous. Crazy right? Here I’ll give you the Cliffnotes from the rawstory/(Washpo) “report”:

      “According to a report from the Washington Post….”

      “A NOAA meteorologist who spoke on the condition of anonymity…”

      “A NOAA official familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly…”

      “Speaking with the Post, one meteorologist who asked to not be named said….”

      Good “reporting” Washinton Post, and great job with the journalistic integrity to use the clickbait storyline as-is without bothering to verify any of this story regardless of absolutely no-one to actually verify any of this. Why bother right? The fools already believe everything we print, more champagne?

  3. $BM September 8, 2019 at 8:13 am - Reply

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/09/08/fox-news-rips-trump-for-secret-summit-with-taliban-before-9-11.html

    “You know, we know the history of Camp David. We reflected on that as we’ve been thinking about doing this for months. President Trump ultimately made the decision. He said I want to talk to President Ghani. I want to talk to these Taliban negotiators. I want to look them in the eye. I want to see if we can get to the final outcome that we need. ~IT~$ almost always because the person across the table isn’t exactly the finest.”

    Piece of a$$ Accord?

  4. Anonymous September 8, 2019 at 8:17 am - Reply

    So when is trump planning on visiting the devastation in AL or is he planning on renaming the Carolinas North of Alabama ?

  5. Anonymous September 8, 2019 at 9:30 am - Reply

    Trump reminds me of the queen in alice in the wonderland when her gophers scrambled after her ball during a game of cricketsand formed themselves into the hole the ball went through. People are abadoning themselves to conform to trumps reality. There must be an alice out there who would dare go against his crazy reality. Alice? You there? We need you.

  6. Anonymously September 8, 2019 at 9:41 am - Reply

    NOAA staff warned in Sept. 1 directive against contradicting Trump

    Nearly a week before the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration publicly backed President Trump over its own scientists, a top NOAA official warned its staff against contradicting the president.

    In an agencywide directive sent Sept. 1 to National Weather Service personnel, hours after Trump asserted, with no evidence, that Alabama “would most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated,” staff was told to “only stick with official National Hurricane Center forecasts if questions arise from some national level social media posts which hit the news this afternoon.”

    They were also told not to “provide any opinion,” according to a copy of the email obtained by The Washington Post.

    A NOAA meteorologist who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution said the note, understood internally to be referring to Trump, came after the National Weather Service office in Birmingham contradicted Trump by tweeting Alabama would “NOT see any impacts from the hurricane.”

    The Birmingham office sent the tweet after receiving a flurry of phone calls from concerned residents following Trump’s message.

    The agency sent a similar message warning scientists and meteorologists not to speak out on Sept. 4, after Trump showed a hurricane map from Aug. 29 modified with a hand-drawn, half-circle in black Sharpie around Alabama.

    “This is the first time I’ve felt pressure from above to not say what truly is the forecast,” the meteorologist said. “It’s hard for me to wrap my head around. One of the things we train on is to dispel inaccurate rumors and ultimately that is what was occurring — ultimately what the Alabama office did is provide a forecast with their tweet, that is what they get paid to do.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/noaa-staff-warned-in-sept-1-directive-against-contradicting-trump/2019/09/07/12a52d1a-d18f-11e9-87fa-8501a456c003_story.html

  7. anon September 8, 2019 at 11:09 am - Reply

    I believe the word insane was misspelled in the headline for this post

    • Who Knew September 8, 2019 at 6:45 pm - Reply

      inane – insane
      Both work.

  8. Anonymous September 8, 2019 at 3:53 pm - Reply

    This has got to end.
    The man is a fucking lunatic. LUNATIC.
    Just because he illegitimately holds the office of presidency, doesn’t mean he is infallible, indestructible….and if it does, then we need to rethink this whole presidency thing because it be broken bad.

    • Anonymous September 8, 2019 at 8:54 pm - Reply

      Rethink this “Presidency thing?”

      He is the legitimate President no matter what you choose to believe.

      Obama had to call Hillary and tell her to finally acknowledge that Trump had won, legitimately.

      • nanna September 8, 2019 at 11:41 pm - Reply

        You stupid fuck. you don’t know anything, you don’t know who Obama called on any day and you sure as hell don’t know if Trump’s miraculous win is in any way legitimate. Only years of investigations will be able to determine that and I’m hopeful that either way Trump will have been eaten by earthworms by then. Just STFU and go away, somewhere there’s a big fat white saggy old arse that needs your expert attention.

  9. Anon September 9, 2019 at 9:23 am - Reply

    FB>”Why has the Sharpie story resonated? Because the image is indelible!”

    Dan the Man Rather

  10. Anonymous September 9, 2019 at 3:31 pm - Reply

    Well, now we know why that anonymous NOAA source released that corroborating statement. Seems sec of commerce which oversees NOAA threatened to fire top NOAA employees unless they corroborated Trump. And NOAA oversees the National Weather Service. So surprise surprise, all roads lead to a Trump appointee.

Leave A Comment