Donald Trump’s negative opinion of Ukraine was partly shaped through conversations with Vladimir Putin.

By |2019-10-22T05:20:47-08:00October 22nd, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , , |18 Comments

(The Ukranian people are so selfish they won’t even let me invade them without throwing a fit about it.)

Courtesy of WaPo:

President Trump’s effort to pressure Ukraine for information he could use against political rivals came as he was being urged to adopt a hostile view of that country by its regional adversaries, including Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, current and former U.S. officials said.

Trump’s conversations with Putin, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and others reinforced his perception of Ukraine as a hopelessly corrupt country — one that Trump now also appears to believe sought to undermine him in the 2016 U.S. election, the officials said.

Neither of those foreign leaders specifically encouraged Trump to see Ukraine as a potential source of damaging information about Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, nor did they describe Kyiv as complicit in an unsubstantiated 2016 election conspiracy theory, officials said.

But their disparaging depictions of Ukraine reinforced Trump’s perceptions of the country and fed a dysfunctional dynamic in which White House officials struggled to persuade Trump to support the fledgling government in Kyiv instead of exploiting it for political purposes, officials said.

The role played by Putin and Orban, a hard-right leader who has often allied himself with the Kremlin’s positions, was described in closed-door testimony last week by George Kent, a deputy assistant secretary of state, before House impeachment investigators, U.S. officials said.

So to be clear Trump allowed his opinion of Ukraine to be shaped by the man who hates them for not allowing him to absorb them back into Russia, and others with a grudge against that country rather than his own experts in America. 

Man, when Pelosi said all paths lead to Putin, she wasn’t kidding!

And now Trump has convinced himself that the Uranians were also behind the Steele dossier.

Courtesy of The Daily Mail:

Donald Trump has asked Attorney General William Barr to look into potential ties between Hillary Clinton, Ukraine and the bombshell anti-Trump dossier compiled by ex-British spy Christopher Steele.

The president claimed that he’s heard rumors that his 2016 rival Clinton hired someone from the Ukraine to write the dossier during a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity aired Monday night.

‘You hear about Ukraine, and you’ve been hearing about it. I heard Clinton was involved,’ Trump said.

‘I heard they got somebody who wrote the fake dossier was out of Ukraine. All of the things that happened.

‘And, I assume that the attorney general – I would like the attorney general to find out what’s going on. Because, you know what? We are investigating corruption.

‘In my opinion, that is what it was, corruption, and if Ukraine would know something about the 2016 election, you have to give that information.’

So now Trump  is sending America’s State Department on yet another wild goose chase based on a ridiculous conspiracy theory that reinforces his need to believe the Mueller investigation was illegitimate. 

You want to laugh at this stuff but you can’t because this is our reality. 

And it is terrifying. 

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18 Comments

  1. anonymous October 22, 2019 at 9:17 am

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/you-lost-internet-mocks-trump-for-cheering-on-great-vote-that-republicans-lost/

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/failure-to-immediately-impeach-trump-puts-the-republic-in-grave-danger-constitutional-scholar/

    “Impeachment should be used sparingly,” Eckstein writes. “But it must be used when a president has in numerous ways violated his oath to ‘preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States’ – and particularly where that president presents a danger that he will do so again and again.”

    • Anonymous October 22, 2019 at 9:47 am

      Or when a president shows such obvious contempt for the Constitution, I.E. “phoney emoluments clause.”

      • Anon October 22, 2019 at 10:58 am

        That was a whopper lie! Regardless, the trumpets will believe his lie.

  2. Anonymous October 22, 2019 at 9:46 am

    What a surprise. NOT.

    We need to know what was said at those closed door meetings, especially the one where Trump took away the Translator’s notes.

    • Anonymous October 22, 2019 at 9:54 am

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-doral-emoluments_n_5dae2607e4b0f34e3a7ad880

      “As President Donald Trump’s staff cooked up an elaborate scheme to let him award his own golf resort a multimillion-dollar contract despite his “emoluments” problem, in doing so they have admitted that he actually has a problem ― something they have refused to concede since he took office.”

      “Trump himself, meanwhile, continued to disparage those restrictions on his ability to profit from his family business while he is president.

      “You people with this phony emoluments clause,” he told reporters Monday at the start of a Cabinet meeting at the White House.”

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-defends-doral-choice_n_5dadef4ae4b0422422c9d460

      “President Donald Trump on Monday continued to defend his administration’s initial decision to host the 2020 Group of Seven summit at his golf resort in Miami, despite canceling the plan over the weekend in response to backlash.”

      ““I was willing to do this for free and it would have been the greatest G-7 ever,” Trump said.”

      Sure, he says AFTER they’ve dumped the idea.

      Of course, not exactly “free” as it would have been paid for by American taxpayers. And you can believe Trump would have had the entire place renovated and redecorated all at taxpayer expense, plus charge for room, board and everything else he could think of at inflated rates. Yep. It would have cost the taxpayer tens of millions. Trump is royally pissed he missed out on this easy cash cow.

    • Anonymous October 22, 2019 at 7:27 pm

      And all the phone calls

  3. anonymous October 22, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    See if this doesn’t turn your stomach

    … In his decades before the White House he was a menace to women everywhere he went. He lied his way into parties to assault models who were only in their teens. He founded a modeling agency and bought a beauty pageant to award himself the right to inspect the merchandise. One Miss California USA entrant described him lining up all the contestants, barely clothed in scanty dance outfits, and walking down the line, notebook in hand, as he gave each an invasive once-over. Couples who held their weddings at Mar-A-Lago might find him chasing their bridesmaids down the hallway, or pulling one behind a tapestry for a quick feel.

    He claims the droit de seigneur in his hotels, roaming the halls late at night clutching a master key that allows him into any room. Dancers, models and actresses staying at Mar-A-Lago for an event or performance described waking up in the wee hours to find him standing at their bedsides.

    Even if a woman rebuffed him, he’d cop a feel when he held her snug during a group photo, or find a way to let his hand linger on her ass. It was this commonplace assault that had me thinking about all the times this sort of thing has happened to me. My much less powerful predators have something in common with the larger scale ones like Trump, Harvey Weinstein or Charlie Rose. He too believes he is brilliant with an excellent idea about what he wants to do to your body. It’s such an excellent idea, he cannot be persuaded that you don’t agree with him because, after all, his opinion is the only one that matters.

    Ivanka’s Childhood Bedroom

    One woman, interior designer Jill Harth, recounted Trump pouncing on her while they stood assessing Ivanka’s childhood bedroom at Mar-A-Lago for renovations. She was so repulsed by this that she vomited next to Ivanka’s canopy bed. You’d think if a woman hurled her lunch at your touch you’d get the hint. Not Donald. Trump took her disgust as playing hard to get, Harth believed. For weeks afterward he called her begging, “I love you baby. I’m going to be the best lover you’ve ever had… You need to be with me, you need to step it up to the big leagues.” When Trump was trying to persuade a woman whose husband was dying to fly away with him for a weekend he argued that her husband was so near death, “He’ll never notice you’re gone.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/200-women-say-creepy-trump-molested-them/

  4. anonymous October 22, 2019 at 1:24 pm
    • anonymous October 22, 2019 at 1:34 pm

      Here it is!

      In Testimony, American Envoy to Ukraine Outlines Trump’s Quid Pro Quo

      https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/william-taylor-ukraine-trump.html

    • Anon October 22, 2019 at 2:24 pm

      “The senior U.S. diplomat in Ukraine said Tuesday he was told release of military aid was contingent on public declarations from Ukraine that it would investigate the Bidens and the 2016 election, contradicting President Trump’s denial that he used the money as leverage for political gain.

      Acting ambassador William B. Taylor Jr. testified behind closed doors in the House impeachment probe of Trump that he stands by his characterization that it was “crazy” to make the assistance contingent on investigations he found troubling.”

      “”The body language of the people hearing it was ‘holy s—,’ seriously,” Rep. Harley Rouda (D-Calif.), a member of the Oversight Committee, said in reference to Taylor’s opening statement.”

      https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/william-taylor-ukraine-testimony-trump-054259

  5. anonymous October 22, 2019 at 1:36 pm

    Why Congress Might Impeach Trump and Actually Remove Him From Office

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/congress-impeach-trump-actually-remove-him.html

    • anonymous October 22, 2019 at 1:40 pm

      Impeachment and the ‘Due Process’ Canard

      …. In an October 8 letter to Congress, White House counsel Pat Cipollone made a specious argument that categorically renounced the impeachment inquiry as unconstitutional on the rationale that Donald Trump’s due process rights are being violated.

      Not so.

      By treating the House impeachment inquiry as illegitimate, the president only risks creating new problems for himself.

      https://thebulwark.com/impeachment-and-the-due-process-canard/

    • 'IN*TELL' October 22, 2019 at 2:20 pm

      “Mike Pence is into shoulders. He talks about shoulders constantly, saying things like, “To be around Donald Trump is to be around a man with broad shoulders,” and “He’s a man with broad shoulders, he’s got a clear vision, he’s strong,” and Ronald Reagan’s “broad-shouldered leadership inspired my life.” It seems Pence has found another pair of broad shoulders to inspire him. The New York Times, in a report on Pence’s influence on the party’s campaign strategy, shows him putting his beliefs into practice: “Mr. Pence stood behind [Trump 2020 campaign manager Brad] Parscale, rubbing his shoulders, as Mr. Trump spoke.”

      Pence doesn’t just preach about his deep, abiding love of shoulders. He truly lives the creed.”

  6. Anonymous October 22, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    After trump is impeached and convicted, he may as to be put in federal prison to save himself from putin’s wrath.

    Putin knows donnie can’t keep his mouth shut and I am sure will be looking for ways to keep his silent.

    donnie might also want food tasters, not paid for by taxpayers since we have already paid out 237 years of presidential salaries for donnie to play golf.

  7. Anonymous October 22, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    https://news.yahoo.com/hungarys-orban-gave-trump-harsh-122220356.html

    “Just 10 days before a key meeting on Ukraine, President Donald Trump met, over the objections of his national security adviser, with one of the former Soviet republic’s most virulent critics, Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary, and heard a sharp assessment that bolstered his hostility toward the country, according to several people informed about the situation.

    Trump’s conversation with Orban on May 13 exposed him to a harsh indictment of Ukraine at a time when his personal lawyer was pressing the new government in Kyiv to provide damaging information about Democrats. Trump’s suspicious view of Ukraine set the stage for events that led to the impeachment inquiry against him.”

    “Ten days after his meeting with Orban, Trump met on May 23 with several of his top advisers returning from the inauguration of Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy. The advisers, including Rick Perry, the energy secretary; Kurt D. Volker, then the special envoy for Ukraine; and Gordon D. Sondland, the ambassador to the European Union, reassured Trump that Zelenskiy was a reformer who deserved U.S. support. But Trump expressed deep doubt, saying that Ukrainians were “terrible people” who “tried to take me down” during the 2016 presidential election.”

    “Mulvaney’s role in facilitating Orban’s visit adds to the picture of the acting chief of staff’s role in the Ukraine situation. It was Mulvaney who conveyed Trump’s order suspending $391 million in U.S. assistance to Ukraine at the same time the president was trying to pressure Zelenskiy to investigate Democrats, including former Vice President Joe Biden.”

    You know what they say. Follow the money.

  8. Did you know? October 23, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    WHEN Russia is found guilty of crimes against humanity from the early 19th century, universal testing will occur. Send them home. All of em! Yikes! Mother Russia here they come! Good luck with that Putin! 😆😆😆😆

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