I remember when you could trust doctors.
Courtesy of NYT:
President Trump’s vital signs were “very concerning” over the last day and he is not out of danger, the White House chief of staff said on Saturday, contradicting a rosier picture painted by the president’s doctors on television just minutes before.
While the doctors maintained that Mr. Trump was “doing very well” and in “exceptionally good spirits” after his first night in the hospital with the coronavirus, Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, provided a more sober assessment and warned that the next two days would be pivotal in determining the outcome of the illness.
“The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care,” Mr. Meadows told reporters outside Walter Reed Medical Military Center, where the president was flown on Friday evening and will remain for at least a few days. “We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.”
Mr. Meadows’s remarks were attributed to a person familiar with the president’s health in a pool report sent to White House journalists in keeping with ground rules that he set for the interview. But a video posted online captured Mr. Meadows approaching the pool reporters outside Walter Reed after the doctors’ televised briefing and asking to speak off the record, making clear who the unnamed source was.
The mixed messages only exacerbated the confusion and uncertainties surrounding the president’s situation. During their briefing, the doctors refused to provide important details and gave timelines that conflicted with earlier White House accounts, leaving the impression that the president was sick and began treatment earlier than officially reported.
Two people close to the White House said in separate interviews with The New York Times that the president had trouble breathing on Friday and that his oxygen level dropped, prompting his doctors to give him supplemental oxygen while at the White House and transfer him to Walter Reed where he could be monitored with better equipment and treated more rapidly in case of trouble.
None of us should ever expect to hear any truth out of this White House unless they can tell it anonymously of course.
I knew while I was watching that physician-led press conference that they were full of shit.
That main guy, Dr. Conley kept messing up the timeline and would not confirm or deny that Trump had ever been placed on oxygen.
Now we know that he has, and that makes every single thing those doctors said questionable.
I mean he referred to Trump as “slightly overweight” who the fuck does he think he is kidding?
Trump launches ‘Operation MAGA’ to have his kids campaign for him while he’s hospitalized with COVID. https://www.axios.com/trump-campaign-operation-maga-covid-19-94ed96fc-710e-4983-9f59-47d407985068.html
Operation MAGA kids https://twitter.com/IantheCovington/status/1312495258563821568
That would be Operation Make America GAG Again, right?
Trot out the sympatthy vote and fake tears.
Conley is a doctor of osteopathic medicine — commonly known as a DO — as opposed to an MD, or doctor of medicine. Both are licensed physicians.
The key distinction is that DOs prioritize osteopathic, holistic approaches to medicine, as opposed to more “traditional” MDs, according to UCLA’s Geffen School of Medicine.
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I don;t care if he lives or dies, and I sure as hell am not going to pray for him.
As long as he dies after Jan 2021.
I heard from a doctor. If he has covid it can take days to get worse. He could go on like this.. After5-7 days if he has a bad case he won’t be hamming it up.
Others thought he is in the hospital to detox. They want him off speed. I doubt we’ll get straight answers. It may be a combination of things.
I am curious to know who else has positive tests. Also would like contact tracing so we know about the families that will be sick and die from the people who get the Trump Virus from his superspread events.
I wouldn’t trust Mark Meadows either.
You have to consider what story would be most beneficial to Trump? The victim of the “Chinese flu”, the invalid that can’t debate and can’t campaign? Look for whatever is more advantageous to Trump and you’ll find the lies and the truth.
Meanwhile, Moscow Mitch is running full steam ahead to get Little Miss Deplorable confirmed by October 12. Talk about a fast track. Makes me wonder if they’ll hide Trump’s death until October 13 just to get her confirmed.
“Good spirits” indeed.
Everyone who bends to the will of Donald Trump is forever disgraced. I hope Dr. Conley thought it was worth it to trash his credibility.
At least we know where “drink bleach” came from. Show me where holistic medicine has cured anyone.
Holistic medicine cures, maintains, and prevents
Stop being fucking retarded and educate yourself you fucking irresponsible idiot. Please take that LITERALLY you fuck.
The bleach thing has nothing to do with either allopathic or holistic medicine.
Your comment is dangerous. And you are drunk. Fuck off.
HALF THE WORLD USES HOLISTIC MEDICINE REGULARLY YOU IGNORANT PRICK.
Let me be clear. You might as well have said, “show me where there’s daylight”. It’s you who are in a darkened room, step outside and look around!! It’s everywhere. That’s where the daylight is – everywhere. You chose to not see it. It’s you that chose that.
Back up. MDs are teh ones who will insist on surgery to replace teh knee joint of a terminal patient becuase it makes them more $$. DOs often use things like manipulative thereapy to ficx many conditions that MDs want to do surgery on – look up vertigo and how DOs fix it. It isn’t for everything, but they are often much better for musculoskeletal problems. Epidemiology and infectious diseases – wouldn’t give them teh time of day.
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/10/03/trump-had-to-be-given-oxygen-before-he-went-to-walter-reed.html
This is exactly as I thought.
If you pump someone up with high flow oxygen for a few minutes they may appear to be doing well enough (temporarily)
to be able to do things like make an 18 sec video or walk to a helicopter.
Heck, for how long now, late to everything, I always thought that they were pumping him full of something.
And that ramp was just his unfortunate choice of shoes.
? ? Premeditated with intent to harm or kill. #SuperSpreader #25thAmendmentNow https://twitter.com/mjfree/status/1312427938164375553
When Nushawn Williams was having sex when he knew he was HIV positive, Rudy said he should be charged with attempted murder or “worse.”
Those doctors owe the truth to the American people. I’m afraid that the Trump administration will want to sugar coat all of their announcements. Members of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans should be briefed daily by honest doctors from Walter Reed.
HIIPA laws supercede that, Beaglemom, and I am sure that you know that.
His spokespeople have free rein to spin as they want to.
Those provisions of HIPAA are to protect personally identifiable information from fraud and abuse and to regulate the use and disclosure of
protected health information, NOT to protect people trying to lie about the health of potus.
It can reasonably be argued that accepting the office of potus places one beyond the limits of the HIPAA Privacy Rule that governs the
use and disclosure of protected health information in the case of minimal accurate information that the American people have a right to know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_Act
This is ONE MORE area of “norms” that will have to be codified in law to prevent another a$$hat from defying them.
@ 3:10 Gosh you really shouldn’t throw around HIPAA when you don’t understand it.
His spokespeople are NOT free to spin as they want, especially when it comes to the president.
Then I guess it’s all about who’s blustering, now isn’t it. I stand corrected.
As Trump gets a top taxpayer-financed Covid treatment, pls remember that he paid virtually no taxes and he is suing in court to try and take away healthcare of 30 million Americans. https://twitter.com/lifetothemax1/status/1312438007819952128
COMMENT OF THE DAY!!!!
YOU WIN!!!!!!
MAKE IT “GO VIRAL” OR HOWEVER THAT WORKS.
Go viral. No pun intended.
U.S president Trump isn’t staying in any old hospital room. Walter Reed Hospital has a six-room presidential suite
https://twitter.com/CaslerNoel/status/1312487450900492288
Nancy Reagan would be with her husband even, if she had a deadly infectious disease. They could be safe and comfortable in that suite. She could monitor everything and be in touch with all the hospital doctors.
I really can’t imagine why Melania would want that weird doctor at White House anywhere near her of Barron. Not even when they are well.
Same the HINO. “DAMN, he’s going to live.”
#BeBest third wife!
Since he got the Chinese flu all Donald wants for dinner is Panda Express.
No more Big Macs
Like $arah Palin, ya gotta be careful of those who lay their hands on and pray over you.
It can turn on you like “that,” now can’t it?
Here is a long video with Donald Trump. Is to be made today, the 3rd! https://twitter.com/farhanreza/status/1312537492592029696
What about all his victims?
“Miracles coming down from God.”
And now we have the final campaign up to Nov 3rd.
“I am fine. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.”
Told you that it was a need for attention/distraction. They even set up flags. LMAO
He will need a miracle. Too bad he’s a loser.
“slightly overweight?”
Oh ok. And the WTC was “slightly damaged” on 9/11.
Well he certainly has not learned his lesson, sure hope Biden acting like a gentleman, doesn’t get burned taking down negative ads
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The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) ??” The Latest on coronavirus infections hitting President Donald Trump and others in his circle (all times EDT):
6 p.m.
President Donald Trump has told his longtime friend and sometimes lawyer Rudy Giuliani that he’s “going to beat” the coronavirus.
The New York Post says Trump called Giuliani on Saturday to assure him he’s doing fine following a sobering assessment from the White House chief of staff.
Trump reportedly told Giuliani on the call: “I feel I could get out of here right now. But they’re telling me there can always be a backstep with this disease. But I feel I could go out and do a rally.”
Trump also reportedly explained that he continued to engage in high-risk activity despite the pandemic because he’s the “president of the United States. I can’t lock myself in a room. … I had to confront (the virus) so the American people stopped being afraid of it so we could deal with it responsibly.”
He also said he hopes that by beating the virus he “will be able to show people we can deal with this disease responsibly, but we shouldn’t be afraid of it.”
Trump is being treated around the clock by a team of doctors at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.
If Biden gets burned, than he does. Face it, common decency took a powder LONG ago in favor of what we have now.
What a martyr, that donnie, how perfectly staged and people fell for it.
I want to know why “Dr, ” Ronnie Johnson is tweeting out that trump is doing just fine, he is no longer trump’s doctor, remember he is the quack that tried to tell us trump only weighs 220 lbs. ( or something like that) and wasn’t he fired for drinking or incompetence?
WHY? Because he is. Theater.
Where is this? https://twitter.com/LionessofZ/status/1312530150743916544
The Department of Defense runs Walter Reed, but the White House controls the presidential suite, which is as much a living space and office as a medical facility.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/coronavirus/trumps-suite-at-walter-reed-features-living-working-spaces-as-well-as-medical-facilities/2434490/
little donnie is so out of touch with real American, he probable thinks everyone gets a suite like that, so what is their problem.
Remember when he said you could go to a grocery store and get a “loan” for food.
Remember they had him play act when they pulled him out of a press conference? They are trying all sorts of things to play a prank on us Americans. But da boy cried wolf so many times, I don’t believe he has that virus. When I had it, I could barely finish a sentence. He seems fine. He will emerge from the Walter Reed and say, see I said old people can lick this thing. And his crowd will chair on and bow down to him with such adulation thinking God hath saved him for them and the big plan. But we are not fooled.
Like minds. The media will keep playing it like another episode of a soap opera.
“Nothing to see here! Move along…..”
I am being to think so too.
Now he is playing the martyr: poor me I am the president and have to risk my life and go out, I can’t stay home..blah blah blah
Next game is: see I got over it, no problems.
Look at this recent b.s. about Todd being all caught up in this prostitution ring in Anchorage,” said Palin. “Heck. all they needed to
do was to ask him, ‘hey, Todd, have you been hanging out with hookers in Anchorage?”
OMG, the doctor is already doing damage control… so we know they are LYING
this is not stuff that doctors make errors about, unless he got his degree from trump U.
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Trump’s Doctor Tries To Walk Back Morning Press Conference Mess
Trump’s Doctors gave a disastrous press conference on Saturday morning full of errors.
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/10/trumps-doctor-tries-walk-back-morning
Next time you’re kicking out propaganda, don’t shoot so high res. You can see he’s literally just writing with a sharpie in the middle of a blank piece of paper in the second one https://twitter.com/jonrog1/status/1312593771138174976
How much is Ivanka paid for working overtime for Daddy? Sharpie is working ot too. https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1312590918915108866
White House photo by Joyce N. Boghosian https://www.defense.gov/observe/photo-gallery/igphoto/2001858248/
” the White House controls the presidential suite” basically he is still White House, doing White House games (they call it work).
He needs to hold up a newspaper in his videos.
LOL, we know he wears glasses because he had them on during the deposition for trump university.
These are just photo ops and taking photos and making videos is NOT WORKING
everyday it becomes clearer this is all a HOAX, he thinks he will get re elected because he got the “chinese virus” and deserves another term,
scroll down and someone posted photos of what the suite looks like, much nicer than his trashy apt in trump towers.
U.S president Trump isn’t staying in any old hospital room. Walter Reed Hospital has a six-room presidential suite just for the commander in chief that includes an intensive care unit, a kitchen, a living room, a bedroom, & a dining room with a crystal chandelier.
https://twitter.com/richard680news/status/1312413225061961728
*This* is why Conley can’t be trusted. He is Hydrochloroquine guy.
https://news.yahoo.com/dr-sean-conley-says-trumps-181652268.html
“The White House physician had not drawn any media attention until earlier this year, when Trump made an umprompted announcement in May that he had taken hydroxychloroquine despite repeated public warnings from the Food and Drug Administration against using the anti-malarial to ward off COVID-19.
Conley issued a memo approving Trump’s use of hydroxycholoroquine, writing “the potential benefit from treatment outweighed the relative risks.” It is unclear if Conley had explicitly prescribed the medication.”
“Conley is a doctor of osteopathic medicine — commonly known as a DO — as opposed to an MD, or doctor of medicine. Both are licensed physicians.
The key distinction is that DOs prioritize osteopathic, holistic approaches to medicine, as opposed to more “traditional” MDs, according to UCLA’s Geffen School of Medicine.”
He isn’t even a real doctor. He’s not an MD.
I wouldn’t believe anything he says.
Osteopaths are not MDs but are mainstream. Your insurane makes no distinciton.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/maggie-haberman-on-the-fallout-from-trumps-hospitalization
Haberman’s byline has appeared on more than twenty stories. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, we discussed what we know about when Trump first tested positive, how the President has been trying to control the narrative around his illness, and the level of coronavirus denial among Republicans in Washington.
” I think they are just shell-shocked.” – “I am not taken aback by the lack of information. I am frustrated by the lack of information. If, indeed, they were sending him out to events knowing he was sick—and we don’t know that, and we need to clarify this—I really will be taken aback. ”
“He is very, very reluctant to have information about his health out there. He always has been. And anything that makes him seem weak. This is his worst nightmare. Not just getting sick with this, but any scenario where he is out of sight and being tended to and Joe Biden is out campaigning.” – “Any perception of weakness for him is some kind of psychic wound.”