Democratic Debate Open Thread.

By |2019-09-12T19:07:59-08:00September 12th, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , |15 Comments

So here we go folks, the number of candidates allowed to participate has been whittled down to ten so the debate will be on one night only this month. 

The participants tonight include:

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Senator Elizabeth Warren

Senator Bernie Sanders

Senator Kamala Harris

Mayor Pete Buttigieg

Andrew Yang

Senator Cory Booker

Former Representative Beto O’Rourke

Senator Amy Klobuchar

And former housing secretary Julián Castro.

The most recent ABC/Washington Post poll shows Trump trailing the top five contenders.

Courtesy of ABC News:

Five Democratic contenders lead Donald Trump in head-to-head matchups in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, with several widening their advantage since July. Concerns about the economy, which have pushed down the president’s job approval rating, are a factor.

Among those tested in the survey, Joe Biden leads Trump by 16 percentage points among all adults, 54-38%, essentially the same as two months ago. Bernie Sanders leads by 12 points, up from 6 in July; as does Elizabeth Warren by 11 points, compared with a slight 7 points previously. Kamala Harris leads by 10 points, while Pete Buttigieg has a slight 6-point edge.

Trump’s support is virtually the same, 38%-41%, in all these matchups, vs. 41%-45% in July. What changes have occurred mainly reflect dips in his support rather than Democratic gains in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates.

I would look for some of those not in the top five to start making some noise by attacking Trump aggressively or questioning the qualifications of some of the front runners. 

Of the front runners I imagine Biden will tout his record working with President Obama, Elizabeth Warren will talk policy, Bernie Sanders will remind everybody that all of the current ultra-progressive ideas were his first, Kamala Harris will talk about her record as a prosecutor, and that Pete Buttigieg will just be super glad to be up there. 

As usual I will update this post as new information becomes available.

So choose your snacks and the beverage of your choice, and let’s sit back and watch democracy in action.

Update: Kamala Harris comes out of the gate strong. 

Oh that is going to be played over and over again on the cable news channels tomorrow. 

Update 2: Beto O’Rourke takes the ball and runs with it. 

I have no faith that he could do what he says he wants to do, but I admire his passion. 

Update 3: Julian Castro takes his shot at Joe Biden. 

Hey, it worked for Kamala Harris. Temporarily.

Update 4: Elizabeth Warren believes gun control legislation needs to be pried out of the cold dead hand of the filibuster.

She’s right. 

Update 5: I actually missed the most controversial thing that happened tonight.

That ad does not even make any damn sense!

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15 Comments

  1. Anon September 12, 2019 at 6:01 pm - Reply

    OMG, Bernie comes across as so abrasive, even when he is saying something that makes sense.

    Also he had started pointing in a “just a moment” type pose at David Muir before David finished asking the question.

    • Beaglemom September 13, 2019 at 5:12 am - Reply

      As soon as I noticed the photo above of Sanders “pointing” his finger, I thought that he’s just not gotten any better in the last four years. I really don’t like Bernie Sanders. He’s been ineffective in Congress, too willing to vote the NRA way, and too willing to interfere in the Democratic Party of which he is NOT a member. He’s just lucky to have been included in their debates.

      • anon September 13, 2019 at 7:29 am - Reply

        “On May 26, 2015, Sanders officially announced his candidacy at Burlington’s Waterfront Park.”

        I screamed NOOOOOOO!

        FUCK the Bern.

        “I REALLY don’t like Bernie Sanders.”

  2. Anon September 12, 2019 at 6:04 pm - Reply

    Elizabeth Warren is so good at explaining things.

    She’s easy to listen to and motivating.

  3. Anon September 12, 2019 at 6:19 pm - Reply

    Joe is just not coming across very well.

    And where is Beto? I think he has only spoken twice, while others have spoken many times.

  4. Anon September 12, 2019 at 6:32 pm - Reply

    Whatever the protesters were saying was totally lost because they weren’t in sync.

    I think it was against Joe, but not sure.

    • Gryphen September 12, 2019 at 6:35 pm - Reply

      I thought the timing was extremely rude.

  5. Gryphen September 12, 2019 at 6:53 pm - Reply

    The debate has ended.

    To be honest I don’t think this one moved the needle one little bit.

    I think in the next poll we will still see Biden at the top, either Warren or Sanders in second place, and the also-rans trailing far behind.

  6. Anonymous September 12, 2019 at 7:17 pm - Reply

    Ok that ad was disgusting, it looked like they used genocide photos from Cambodia under Pol Pot (oops, saw the ad with sound off) which wasn’t socialism it was a dictatorship.

    Whoever that Elizabeth Heng is she should get a visit from the secret service for again “threatening” AOC and she should be ashamed of herself, but that would be asking too much that a republican act with civility.

    ABC should also be ashamed of themselves.

  7. Anon September 12, 2019 at 7:31 pm - Reply

    I continue to be impressed with Warren and Mayor Pete.

    I also liked Amy Klobuchar, but I don’t see her as a contender.

    Joe Biden seemed old and tired, and didn’t answer the questions asked.

    I’ve never been a huge fan of Bernie’s, but he turned me off more than usual- cant stand the finger pointing, hand gestures, and general gruffness and angry old New Englander persona.

  8. Anonymous September 12, 2019 at 7:32 pm - Reply

    Hell yes the former Mrs. Todd Palin will take on Beto O’Rourke for going after her baby.

  9. Anonymous September 12, 2019 at 10:00 pm - Reply

    Geez. I mean i like the contenders but trump is going to be biting ears when the fight is on. Democrats are so nice and play by the rules. Gonna be a hard campaign when putin whispers into trumps ear. Both trump and putin are desperate enough to want to clutch their worldy possessions and power.

  10. Anon September 13, 2019 at 7:43 am - Reply

    I just made contributions to the Elizabeth Warren and the Dump(Bitch) Mitch campaigns.

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