Black voters in America are torn between two old white guys running for president in 2020.

By |2019-09-02T08:15:05-08:00September 2nd, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , , , |17 Comments

I’m not even sure what I should think about this. 

Courtesy of Politico

A generational divide among black voters is persisting in the Democratic primary — between the two old white men.

Joe Biden has amassed a staggering lead among older African Americans, commanding nearly two-thirds support of black voters 65 and older in the most recent Morning Consult poll. Bernie Sanders is the favorite of black millennials, though his margin with that group is much smaller. Among all black voters, Biden is leading Sanders, 41 percent to 20 percent.

Biden and Sanders have maintained their edges even as other candidates — including two African American senators, Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, have courted black voters more aggressively in recent months. Though opinions could change in the runup to voting, the preferences of African Americans this deep into the campaign has major implications for the election: As black voters go, so goes the mantle of Democratic front-runner — and likely the presidential nominee.

The irony of two white septuagenarians commanding majority support among African Americans — despite running in a historically diverse Democratic field — isn’t lost on black elected officials, operatives and voters. Several of them interviewed for this story said it speaks to the belief among many black voters that Biden is both best positioned to beat Donald Trump in a general election and to the loyalty he earned after eight years as Barack Obama’s No. 2.

They say that black voters are very pragmatic and really examine the issues that a candidate is running on and their electibility before making their choice. 

So with that in mind this does make some kind of sense. 

However I also find it somewhat troubling that Joe Biden seems to benefit from a sort of reflected glory from his time as Obama’s VP. 

That means he did not earn that support so much as benefit from standing in the splash zone as buckets of it were thrown to his more deserving political pal 

At least in Bernie’s case his policies were what carved off the youth vote.

That seems to me a little more respectable than simply standing next to a black man for eight years. 

But hey, what do I know?

After all I am just a white middle aged male who is more impressed with the female candidates than the dudes. 

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17 Comments

  1. Anonymously September 2, 2019 at 2:09 pm

    Julián Castro claims he can reassemble Obama’s winning coalition

    Democratic presidential candidate Julián Castro said Sunday he agrees with assertions that any of the 2020 Democratic contenders would be a better fit for the Oval Office than President Donald Trump — whether that’s him or one of his opponents. And he thinks he can oust Trump.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/01/julian-castro-trump-obama-1479448

  2. Anonymously September 2, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    Trump Wants The Hispanic Vote So Badly Even If It Pisses Off His Supporters

    President Donald Trump has a new idea to win over Hispanic voters in Florida in time for the 2020 election.

    According to a Politico report Monday, Trump is considering shielding Venezuelan immigrants from deportation after Florida leaders assured him that the move would help him win the battleground state in 2020.

    Despite how the President has pushed to end the temporary legal status of other migrant groups in the U.S., Trump views the idea as a way to boost his 2020 chances as he works to oust Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro — one of his top foreign policy proposals.

    Trump reportedly sees the prospect as a two-for-one deal — not only would the move play well with Florida’s sizable Venezuelan population, but like-minded Cuban Americans as well. Trump is particularly concerned with his declining approval rating in Florida since narrowly winning the state in 2016.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-consider-venezuelan-immigrant-protections

  3. Anonymous September 2, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    Joe Biden’s not a bad guy. He’s not that great, either. But the fact that he was willing to be Barack Obama’s VP gives him credit. Taking it was definitely a gamble, I remember 2008 very well. The fact that he was willing to take that chance and lend his experience does say something about the guy. Also, Joe Biden himself actually loves the parody version of himself that The Onion does. Biden might very well be the most decent and likable candidate. Next to Trump, that quality is important.

    That said, Warren 2020!

  4. Anonymous September 2, 2019 at 2:41 pm

    Always weirdly creepy reading or listening to white liberals talking about minorities and who they should be voting for. Totally surreal.

    Maybe you should recognize and treat all intelligent humans as being such. Perhaps you could respect individual ideologies and allow individual choices without chiming in and speaking as a superior on others behalf’s just because you see others as different? Kind of demeaning and racist for whitey liberals to dismissively assume they speak for minorities don’t you think? Just a thought.

    Was speaking with a fellow co-worker buddy the other day who is Navajo (proudly) and grew up on the reservation…. (as a Mormon believe it or not), spent the first half of his adult life in the Army.

    He couldn’t stop laughing at the stupidity and arrogance of Warren. Just so you know.

    • Gus Dusted September 2, 2019 at 3:59 pm

      Are you DONE yet, attention seeker?
      Perhaps you should take your own advice second paragraph.

    • Anonymous September 2, 2019 at 4:13 pm

      Mormons. So not into the Bible that they created their own.
      NASTY people, but thanks for playing.

      • Anonymous September 2, 2019 at 5:48 pm

        To be clear, he is not Mormon, but was raised in a Mormon household. Likes beer and other non-acceptable Mormon activities too much he says. But thank you for playing 4:13.

        Gus Dusted you make no sense. Just pointing out how white liberals think they are the voice of all minority people, and that they believe minorities should vote how they tell them to vote.

        • Gus Dusted September 2, 2019 at 6:39 pm

          I am a progressive, thank you for judging,
          The only one with an attitude is you,

          • Anonymous September 3, 2019 at 6:16 am

            ok Gus Dusted, you are a progressive lol. Whatever that means. Either way you are a small minded fool.

  5. stay in Texas bristol September 2, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    Warren needs to eat more dense heavy carbs. Anyone?

  6. Open Minded September 2, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Who are “they” that you quote when you portray “black voters” as if they are some monolithic, group-think voting bloc? That’s a meaningless statement.

    I’m Melungeon (from mixed Portuguese/black/Creek/Scots-Irish DNA) and I grew up in the south enduring the prejudice of people like you who want to pigeonhole people by race. Your approach is destructive and divisive. My whole life, people who don’t know me have asked me “what are you” because I have ashy-dusky skin, dark eyes, and frizzy black hair, but I also have sharp, thin “European” features. A long time ago I gave up trying to explain, at least to many North Americans, that race is just a social construct. (When I lived in Asian countries, I didn’t encounter the same problems.) You seem to demonstrate that at least one middle-aged American white man dismisses serious male candidates as “dudes” because apparently you never grew up.

    I favor Julian Castro. He’s brilliant (educated at Stanford and Harvard Law), experienced (former HUD secretary, mayor of San Antonio (so he knows a lot about collaborative governance), and he has a platform of sound policies based on his education and experience. This includes expanded Pell Grants, programs for free or reduced-price pre-K education, intelligent approaches to affordable housing, and so on. Apparently none of that interests you. Kamala Harris would be my second choice, with Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar trailing not too far behind.

    Having said that, I would be relieved to have any Democrat currently in the running as President. It would even be an improvement to have any half-way intelligent Republican in office. I’m in my 70s and I weep to see what has become of the country. I hope I live long enough to see the nation and the world heal from the wounds Trump and his admin have inflicted. People like you are not helping. Periodically I visit your blog, among others, but I don’t stay long because there’s not much of substance here.

    Anonymous at 2:41 is not far off the mark. Your blog is creepy, and it’s getting worse–not better–the older you get. You want to polarize everyone–a lot like the white man in the White House who divides people into unflattering groups, including seeing women as bimbos, like the photo of women in “Girl Gang” shirts you chose for one of your recent posts. This is the way you down things down.

    Nuanced ways of thinking are more productive than your shallow depictions of issues and people. You favor rants sprinkled with F-bombs instead of thoughtful posts about candidates, policies, and platforms. There’s no evidence you even take the time to become informed on current events as they relate to factual information. Your commenters often know more than you, and they sometimes have to correct your mistakes. So here’s my answer to your rhetorical question, “Hey, what do I know?” If your posts are any indication, you know only how to label, pigeon-hole, and divide people along narrow racial, gender, and religious lines, often using belittlement, name-calling, and vulgar language. The only exception is your rare LGBTQ olive leaf, probably because of your family connection.

    That’s probably why the number of comments have fallen off since you changed the blog format, and none of the old regulars post anymore, at least not under the familiar names they used to use. Mlaiuppa, Nefer, Ailsa–they are gone, and I don’t blame them, but I do miss reading their informed viewpoints. I feel bad for you (not badly, because I understand grammar.) Maybe you’re lonely and you find solace here. Fair enough, but I’m glad you don’t have many readers, and I take heart from the comments that call you out for your errors, but they are few and far between.

    Pax et bonum

    P.S. Read more.

    N.B. The F-word and profanity do not lend strength to your language. They just indicate a poverty of expression, i.e., limited vocabulary. Take it from a retired teacher.

  7. AK Lynne September 2, 2019 at 4:44 pm

    Hmmm, actually Anon at 2:41 pm, it’s always weirdly creepy reading what you write. Just so you know.

  8. AKMama 63 September 2, 2019 at 5:12 pm

    The poll says a commanding lead of African American voters 65 and older. That is a different generation. To put things in perspective, my grandmother(who is now deceased) initially did not support Barack Obama in the democratic primary in 2008. She didnt believe an African American man could EVER win a national election. So in the primary, she voted for Hillary. After Barack won the primary, she went to the ballot, voted for him and cried with the rest of the family when he won. My point is, the older African American voter is a pragmatic, consistent, loyal Democratic Party voter. They will support a candidate that shares their values, (keep in mind, Biden is openly religious which is HUGE in this age group) is moral and an ardent supporter of civil rights. The battle will be for African American voters between the ages of 20-55. As an African American member of this group, I havent decided yet. Nor have my two college educated, adult children. Its just too early.

  9. Anonymous in Chicago September 2, 2019 at 5:14 pm

    It’s still very early and at this point, I’m still listening to all of the Democratic candidates who are still in the Presidential race.

    However from most reporting, Biden was not someone who jut stood in Obama’s shadow for eight years. Biden was involved in Obama’s policy and decision making while in office. Obama relied on Biden’s counsel on both domestic and foreign matters. Biden didn’t become close friends with Barack through ceremonial ass-kissing like Pence is with Trump.

    As the Politico writer points out, Biden and Sanders are two white septuagenarians. By the way, so is Elizabeth Warren.

  10. Ex Cat September 2, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    My fantasy is to watch Harris tear trump to shreds in a televised debate.My fantasies rarely are realized but I will continue to hope until it is no longer a possibility.

    • Sick And Tired Of Being Sick And Tired September 2, 2019 at 7:02 pm

      MY fantasy: Unlike Hillary, he’s not allowed to stalk the stage and breathe down anyone’s neck.
      McCain losing to Obama….pacing, pacing.
      Get behind your podium and STAY there.

      Palin: “I don’t want to talk about that, I want to talk about energy!”
      Answer the damned question! All puff pieces, moderators included.

  11. Anonymous September 4, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    What about the old white woman? Misogynist much?

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