A majority of military veterans now view both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as mistakes.

By |2019-07-12T05:16:46-08:00July 12th, 2019|Categories: News|Tags: , , , , , , |11 Comments

Gee, no kidding!

Courtesy of Mother Jones

It’s not just a majority of Americans who think the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were a catastrophic mistake. Military veterans now increasingly say the Bush-era conflicts were not worth it, according to a Pew Research Center survey released Wednesday.

Sixty-four percent of the 1,284 veterans interviewed by Pew said the Iraq invasion was not worth fighting, while 58 percent similarly dismissed the 17-year Afghanistan conflict as a waste. “Veterans who served in either Iraq or Afghanistan are no more supportive of those wars than those who did not serve in these wars,” Pew researchers Ruth Igielnik and Kim Parker wrote. “And views do not differ based on rank or combat experience.”

A concurrent poll of civilian views reached the same, general result. By substantial quantities, Americans in and out of uniform now view the several-trillion-dollar wars as a mistake.

“Our veterans have borne the brunt of these policy mistakes and it is not surprising they would be wary of more endless war abroad while also not looking kindly on our current wars,” says Nate Anderson, executive director of the conservative Concerned Veterans for America organization, in a statement.

A whopping 73% of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, though I was certainly not among them, but by 2007 only about 36% were still supportive. 

The Afghanistan war held onto its support for much longer, but as it has dragged on that support has dramatically diminished. 

I am not a military person so I have always been intrigued by how soldiers who went over to Iraq and Afghanistan, and saw for themselves what we are doing to those people, could continue to support our presence there. 

Now it appears that even they have become fed up and unable to continue to support our forever wars.  

The thing that always gets me about Iraq, in particular, is that there was so much evidence that going in there would be a catastrophe, and yet somehow the Bush Administration convinced the majority of Americans that it was both neccessary and easily won. 

When you wonder how we could have been stupid enough to put Donald Trump in office, my answer is that we have been stupid all along. 

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11 Comments

  1. nanna July 12, 2019 at 4:41 am - Reply

    ditto the first Iraq war, coincidentally I just read this today and I was shocked by it even though I never believed Bush I to begin with because American presidents will say anything when they’re in the mood to kill

    https://billmoyers.com/2014/06/27/the-first-iraq-war-was-also-sold-to-the-public-based-on-a-pack-of-lies/

    • anon July 12, 2019 at 7:33 am - Reply

      Polls suggest that Americans tend to differentiate between our “good war” in Iraq — “Operation Desert Storm,” launched by George HW Bush in 1990 — and the “mistake” his son made in 2003.
      it’s important to recall that the first Gulf War was sold to the public on a pack of lies that were just as egregious as those told by the second Bush administration 12 years later. – one reporter — Jean Heller of the St. Petersburg Times — wasn’t satisfied taking the administration’s claims at face value. She obtained two commercial satellite images of the area taken at the exact same time that American intelligence supposedly had found Saddam’s huge and menacing army and found nothing there but empty desert.
      She contacted the office of then-Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney “for evidence refuting the Times photos or analysis offering to hold the story if proven wrong.” But “the official response” was: “Trust us.”

      Heller later told the Monitor’s Scott Peterson that the Iraqi buildup on the border between Kuwait and Saudi Arabia “was the whole justification for Bush sending troops in there, and it just didn’t exist.”

      A young woman who gave only her first name, Nayira, testified that she had been a volunteer at Kuwait’s al-Adan hospital, where she had seen Iraqi troops rip scores of babies out of incubators, leaving them “to die on the cold floor.” Between tears, she described the incident as “horrifying.” Her account was a bombshell.
      Iraqi trOOps had looted Kuwaiti hospitals, but the gruesome image of babies dying on the floor was a fabrication.
      Nayirah was in fact the daughter of Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait’s ambassador to the US. Her testimony had been organized by a group called Citizens for a Free Kuwait, which was a front for the Kuwaiti government.
      “the very same armchair warriors in Washington who from the safety of their Beltway bunkers called for invading Baghdad, are demanding once again that America plunge into the sectarian wars of the Middle East.” John Bolton

      Pee.$>FUCKUdickcheney

  2. Paul July 12, 2019 at 6:59 am - Reply

    Chickenhawk John Bolton, who actively pushed for the Iraq war, is now pushing for a war with Iran (and North Korea, Cuba, and several African countries). He’s saying that a war with Iran would be easy. Remember when he said the same thing about the war with Iraq, the war we are still fighting? Only idiots would take advice from Bolton; unfortunately, Donnie Dotard is an idiot.

    • Nonne Mouse July 12, 2019 at 7:42 am - Reply

      When you haven’t won one since WWII. Let’s start another.

  3. OT-FYI July 12, 2019 at 7:45 am - Reply

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/heres-the-damning-evidence-of-felony-coordination-between-trump-campaign-and-russians-that-the-mueller-report-overlooked-report/

    “It seems Mueller did not hire any legal experts with experience in campaign finance regulation,” Shugerman complains. “Given that this investigation was about campaign crimes, this appears to a revealing oversight with serious consequences.”
    “Given Mueller’s failure and Trump’s exploitation of that failure,” Shugerman stresses, “it is now Congress’ duty to the public, the candidates under investigation and future candidates to identify the law clearly and to explain that some of this behavior was a civil violation — and in fact, a criminal violation.”

  4. Anonymous July 12, 2019 at 8:35 am - Reply

    We were within five minutes of a war with Iran a few weeks ago, before Cheeto cancelled the strike.

  5. Anon July 12, 2019 at 12:04 pm - Reply

    Just think of the trillions wasted that could have gone to HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE! I’m SICK OF THIS! Americans deserve better.
    Look, I’m no scholar but it’s frustrating when I get the snort from my husband’s RW friends if I try to kindly explain that they are being bamboozled.
    I’m no fool and I don’t like to criticize a different opinion but it’s mind boggling to me how many people in this country are STUPID SUCKERS.
    These idiot ideologies come from a minority who don’t realize that they are being sold out to the industrial war machine.
    We need to GOTV and get someone with progressive ideals in office who can actually clean up this mess.
    This country took a hard right in the 80’s (thank you Ronnie Raygun) when the deplorables realized they could siphon off America’s riches to the private sector.
    Dems have never realized that they are dealing with a diabolical group of cheaters who will do anything to win because they couldn’t conceive that their colleagues were dealing in bad faith.
    Republicans do not have any regard for our Constitution and the doctrine that it enshrines because their base is the working class stupid racists or the wealthy “who cares” I got miners and don’t even get me started on the righteous religious who think they hold the key to Christian family values and act like they are above reproach in public but are the biggest perverts in private.

  6. Anonymous July 12, 2019 at 3:47 pm - Reply

    Well it certainly wasn’t a mistake according to Mr. Dick “Halliburton, ha, ha fooled ya, I made billions” Cheney.

  7. Anonymous July 12, 2019 at 4:36 pm - Reply

    Americans have a god given right to be as stupid as they want to be. Have felt this is a belief we developed decades ago, and now we see what this has achieved, a reality TV star President trying to turn a nation into a reality TV show.

  8. puck July 12, 2019 at 8:14 pm - Reply

    very much so. still, they have earned our respect and we should always do so. trump wasn’t real crazy about going to war once it came to that.coward the whole planet knows it now.

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